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The whole purpose of a carrier barrel is that it is bored out to reduce weight to the point that, with the tube set in place, final weight will be the same, or very, very close to the same weight as the original 12 ga. set. Some responses seem to assume that the weight will not be the same. If it isn't, I'd have no interest. If it can be made to be, and my understanding is that it can, the advantage of the carrier barrel set remains.
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Back to Claude Purbaugh conversions & tubes.. I'd sent a PM to Eightbore a while back seeking some insight/help, but have received no response, to date. ??
Does anyone here know of who might affect some repairs to sets of his 20ga. tubes or be capable of fabricating a set of ejectors for a set of his tubes fitted to an early B.C. Miroku 12ga. Superior skeet gun.. or modifying or locating a std. 20 ga. 1100 bolt for one of his .410 conversions?
If so, pls. send me a PM Thanks!
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kolar and briley can replace cracked chambers on purbaugh tube sets. I have the molds for ejectors but im OOB and cant set up shop just for you. sorry. try the big guys.
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my logic is this. skeet requires weight to balance a gun. 99.9999% of skeet gun owners complain that skeet guns are too light, so they welcome the weight of tubes and adjust butt weight to compensate. the result is you get a balanced gun for 20-28 and 410.
so, now you have a 12ga bbl by its self. then you get a tube set PLUS the carrier bbl attempting to equal an already light set up. that is (IL)logical. take il-logic one step further.... bbl co.'s reduce weight of tubes with (ultra) lights and make a carrier bbl ultralight...to equal a 12ga bbl. no gain in my eyes. backwards engineering. the rig will just return to being....too light.
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my 3200 4 bbl set is factory 8.5 lbs. that's on average, 1 lb heavier than typical skeet guns of its time. take a 3200, add tubes, counter balance it with a adjust buttplate and thick pad, you got the balance and most likely a 9 to 10lb gun. perfect.
take a 12ga 7.5 citori. add a carrier to it (reduced weight,) then add the super light tubes. maybe you get at most a 8.5 lb gun. add an adjustable butt or nice squishy pad, now its getting butt heavy. so back goes the weight up front with an external bbl weight.
why?
gadget addiction.
just get tubes, balance and shoot it.....like generations did before you. I can attest.....more skeet shooters put more money into guns and gadgets than they do ammo and practice....chasing ideas and building false confidence in the gun. and 99.999% of it is caused by the guy next to them having it, making them want it, and the industry offers it, and markets it as the answer to all your skeet problems. lol.
don't believe me? look at some for sale rooms on line and look at all the guns that have been modified to the owners needs. very rarely do you see a gun that hasn't been butchered.
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tw Good luck on your quest to get the old ones up and running https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-Model-A-1100-20-ga-breech-bolt-assembly/183851164745?hash=item2ace622449:g:YPAAAOSw4yJdB5w9 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Remington-model-1100-20ga-standard-complete-bolt-assy-after-market-LOT-20/173771242003?hash=item287592ba13:g:TuAAAOSwJ89cUxzs
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