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According to my year code information; XX is the year code for 1964?
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Now that I ponder on it a bit, it may be "XIX" which would be 19. And Jim your are correct as it would be something like (N-1) + 1945 so (20-1)+1945 would be 1964 and (19-1)+1945 would be 1963.
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Thanks Gentlemen for all your comments. The receiver and forend are Wm. R Schaefer Boston 1870's. The XX May be XIX.On the left bbl flat is "1 S",and a sheild with crossed swords'-possibly a crown-very hard to see- This also has a encircled star over it. Probably cann't get pictures until Tuesday. Thanks again Bill
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I consider Bohler to be a sign of quality on modern guns just like Whitworth is a sign of quality on older guns. They don't use the best on the cheap stuff. bill
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McPhail:
For now on the "1S", I don't have a clue. But the other mark inside a shield is something of the sorts of an anvil atop a scepter w/ a set of crossed longarms w/ bayonets overstamped. Anyone know if it is an anvil and/or scepter?
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Raimey Your description of the sheild is much more precise than mine. Thats most likely what it is. The "S" might be a "5" Thanks Bill
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Bill, so I've only seen a handful of Schaefer guns, are you saying that some were originally nickel plated? I recently saw a 10 sell at auction for next to nothing. I had glanced at it, but it looked like it had been entirely polished to 'in-the-white'. I assumed to remove all of the rust and pitting, never gave a thought about nickel plating. Funny thing is... I thought to myself, Bill would cry if he saw this gun. I'll stick to my original assessment of this gun... or was I wrong?
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There are several Schaefers I know of that are nickel plated. Other Boston makers such as Joseph Tonks regularly plated his guns.
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The three Stars would indicate the choke. At this point in time * = full, ** = 3/4, *** = ½, **** = ¼ & CL = cylinder. Since the Roman Numeral dating system began with I in 1945 I find the easiest way is to simply add the number to 1944. This will of course give identical results as N-1 + 1945. This would of course give the date the new set of bbls were proofed. Would it be safe to assume the guns mentioned as being found with the Nickle plating were expected to see use for coastal waterfowling & the nickle was for better protection against the salty atmosphere.
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Both bbls are @ .760 in the last 6 in without significant constiction and marke with3 stars. Have a Kirkwood Boston 1881 12 ga light weight gun that is Nickle plated. Had a Tonks Light 12 plated. Agree about salt water metal protection, but these Boston Makers used it on upland field guns Thanks Bill
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