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Mike McIntosh asked me this question.(I think he knows the answer!!) I have seen Lefever Optimus, Parker AA &A1 Spl's. Are there "Others"? CC.
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Xchisles, I have seen Baker L Grade and De Luxe with Whitworth barrels. Also Syracuse Arms D Grade, Smith A2 and higher, Lefever Optimus. All of these were made after the turn of the century. I have an 1887 Lefever catalog [my date mark] offering Kilby or Whitworth for the Optimus. An 1889 Catalog has the same offering. If my memory is correct, Parker offered Whitworth beginning sometime in the mid 1890s.
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The Linnerman Lefever Optimus shown in the Double gun Journal has Whitworth barrels. It is Circa 1887.
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I assume you mean the first American firm?
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Chris, What's the SN on the Linnerman Lefever Optimus?
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GregSY,Was inhaling smoke-lamp fumes from inletting action-s
trap,before breakfast....Should have put"In the United States"
Daryl H.Thanks also for Imfo. I wonder what the earliest date that an American Maker used 'Whitworth Tubes'?The earliest Parker that I have had was No108226 c.1901. CC/dt
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David, there is an interesting story on the LC Smith Whitworth barrels. Whitworth was LC's biggest supplier and LC was Whitworth's biggest client. Whitworth decided to raise their prices and put pressure on LC beforehand. They slowed deliveries until there was a fair backlog. They chose this moment to inform LC of a price increase. LC waisted no time finding a knight in shining armour. Krupp supplied them with the immediate needs for less money and reputedly, with a better product. Out of the goodness of their colonial hearts, LC informed Whitworth of this and that they would continue to buy Whitworth barrels only at a price REDUCTION, not an increase. Whitworth was unhappy but relented. Krupp was bummed but became an optional source. The Yanks were quite pleased with themselves.
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It is my firm and informed belief that Whitworth fluid steel barrels were first used by a Manchester (U.K.) gunmaker.I have the details somewhere.
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