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Longshot gun ID #84898 02/25/08 08:39 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 869 St Charles, Illinois 775 OP Sidelock
OP 775 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 869 St Charles, Illinois	Anyone recognise this buttplate? This is side view. I am very sorry for camera/phone pics but was tight on time and just happened to stumble upon this walking past the Gun Library! Gun is 16ga with a simple thumbprint type damascus. Very tight and clean. It has almost no markings on the barrel or action flats...maybe a barrel supplier mark on each tube and one small squiggle on action flat. Thats it! One strange thing is, it seems to be unfired and has what appear to be stepped chambers AND forcing cones along with a step in one of the chokes. Otherwise completly finished with nice simple scrolls that look Belgian/turn of century. Again, I know this is a longshot with the cruddy photos and no pics of marks but I was blown away by the condition of the gun. Best, Mark Last edited by 775; 02/25/08 08:51 PM. Ms. Raven

Re: Longshot gun ID 775 #84900 02/25/08 08:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,814 Likes: 194 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,814 Likes: 194 North Alabama	775: It looks to be a likeness of Herkules, the J.P. Sauer & Sohn mark. Kind Regards, Raimey rse

Re: Longshot gun ID ellenbr #84905 02/25/08 09:11 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 869 St Charles, Illinois 775 OP Sidelock
OP 775 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 869 St Charles, Illinois	Thanks Raimey, I will look that up. It depicts a man holding a large club and says someting or other and "marke" under his feet, I think. Best, Mark Last edited by 775; 02/25/08 09:12 PM. Ms. Raven

Re: Longshot gun ID 775 #84908 02/25/08 09:19 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,814 Likes: 194 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,814 Likes: 194 North Alabama	775: Look in a J.P. Sauer & Sohn, Suhl cataloge(1924) where Hercules(I may have spelled the action version previously) w/ a staff is over "Gesetzlich Eingetragene Schultzmarke". Kind Regards, Raimey rse Last edited by ellenbr; 02/25/08 09:20 PM.

Re: Longshot gun ID ellenbr #84924 02/25/08 10:39 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,814 Likes: 194 North Alabama ellenbr Sidelock
ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 10,814 Likes: 194 North Alabama	Mark: Did the "small squiggle" on the watertable resemeble an intertwined "SSu" - Sauer & Sohns, Suhl or a circle w/ 3 "S"s in rotation? I've been doing a little research on August Gottlieb Schuler, Friedrich Schuler & son Oskar Schuler. Somewhere there are frames stamped "ASS"(August Schuler Suhl). Makes you think about naming a kid. Most of the material is sourced from "The Greenhill Dictionary of Guns and Gunmakers" which in a review Mr. D. Apel said that it did have some errors. Kind Regards, Raimey rse

Re: Longshot gun ID ellenbr #84926 02/25/08 10:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 977 sunset side up Steve Meyer Sidelock
Steve Meyer Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 977 sunset side up	The lack of any other proof marks is good evidence that it's German (no proof law before 1891) and Hercules with a club is down town Sauer as Raimey mentioned. Glorious condition!

Re: Longshot gun ID Steve Meyer #85043 02/26/08 07:42 PM
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 869 St Charles, Illinois 775 OP Sidelock
OP 775 Sidelock Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 869 St Charles, Illinois	Thank you all very much! Cannot imagine why the lack of a name on it though.....was worth taking credit for. Best, Mark Ms. Raven

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