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OT I have two Winchester 1897's that I would like to have brought back to as close to factory new as possible. Both are in pretty decent condition but I would like to add to the "Pretty" part.Who does the very best work on refinishing Winchesters includin the wood??
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You might check out these folks. I have not used them, but have used some of their products with success. http://www.winrest.com/Jim
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I just had a Win Mod 1912 Tournament Grade redone by Freddy Brunner. It was so thoroughly worn when I got it that it was a $150 gun. I am very pleased with the results, and it was pronounced "really nice" by a group of old gun kibbitzers from LCSCA.
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Doug Turnbull Bloomfield, NY The very best!
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Uh, I assume you meant Doug Turnbull? http://www.turnbullrestoration.com/
Always looking for small bore Francotte SxS shotguns.
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Simmons in KS used to do good work, not sure of there current status.
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I just had a Win Mod 1912 Tournament Grade redone by Freddy Brunner. It was so thoroughly worn when I got it that it was a $150 gun. I am very pleased with the results, and it was pronounced "really nice" by a group of old gun kibbitzers from LCSCA. If you will, what did it cost for the restoration? Turnbull is the best, but is very expensive.
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FYI- John Kay has RETIRED.....
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Don, Freddy charged me $1275 to redo the solid rib 1912. Included drawfiling, polishing and rebluing, squaring up the muzzle, minor new wood inletted at the tang, recutting all checkering from scratch (the gun was so far gone that there was no checkering pattern to follow), supplying and fitting a NOS Winchester pad from his inventory (in hindsight I should have used a Silvers on that gun, but I can change the pad later), polishing the bore and bolt, and painting a new red line on the safety button. I bought it because it was cheap, had no idea it was a Tournament Grade until I examined it more closely. Truly a beater when I got it.
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I would say either Turnbull or the Winrest. As I understand it, the guy at Winrest worked at the old Winchester plant so he has all the original oil/finish recipes. He should be pretty good. Good luck.
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Replacement:
Can you give me Freddy phone number
Thanks,
john
John Boyd
Quality Arms Inc
Houston, TX
713-818-2971
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He does wonderful work on LCs also
Freddie Brunner
Escondido, Ca
760-738-8413
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Proper restoration of a Winchester pump gun, especially a 97 is truly rocket science. At least 98 out 100 restorations are unacceptable to serious collectors even when they are only intended to be used as shooters. I have never had a 97 done but I have had a couple of 42s that had scratched or otherwise damaged receivers. I agonized over them for years, finally turned them over to a very talented person who charged me a fortune only to drawfile and finish the receiver on each. I saw the work in progress and am now understanding why most refinishers don't get it right. I also understand why is wasn't cheap. What most of these guys describe as a restoration is nothing more than a quick and dirty refinish. Turnbull does it right and charges for the hours it actually takes. Unfortunately the cost will exceed the value of a pump gun.
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the cost will exceed the value of a pump gun. So true...
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I have used Ron's Gun Shop for Carbonia blue and was pleased. He also offers full restorations http://www.ronsgunshop.com/index.htmlOB
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Many thanks to all. I appreciate your responses.The last shop I used to restore several guns was Andy's and I still don't have the story of what happened there
Thanks again to all and
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Gene
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jjwag69 ----- Be VERY careful with Bob Williams (owner) of this Co. I have had more than a few clients who have had serious problems getting their work back from him & work received not always up to snuff. I heard from another client just this morning about this guy ---- client had to resort to a lawyer. FWIW, Ken
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I'm sure they've (Simmons) changed hands at least once since they did a reblue on an L.C. Smith trap double for me in 1962. There wasn't a square edge left anywhere on the metal when I got it back. They had me return it to them to be repaired(?), but mysteriously, the barrels were crushed enroute to them. UPS picked up the tab for the value of the gun.
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I second Ken Hurst's warning. Long history of customers holding the bag.
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Thanks, I have never used the services just some of the products. No problem with shipping of quality.
Jim
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