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Maloney, you are a trouble-maker. (Smile. I don't know how to post icons.)

Like a moth to a flame. I should let these foolish threads -- and in more than one instance, galactically ignorant rants -- alone, but they fascinate at the same time they repel.
It has always amazed me how quickly the "right" wing demonizes and disparages not just their opposition (i.e., Hillary, Kerry, Dems, Libs, etc.) but also their own when somehow they don't sufficiently pander to some special interest or party line. Imagine that, having a mind of your own, as John McCain has on occasion exhibited. Was McCain a war hero? How about John Kerry? Max Clelland? The soldier who blew the whistle on Abu Ghraib? Disagree with McCain, or, on a larger scale with Kerry, for public stances on issues, but understand one thing: they served honorably. Any disparagement of this fact renders all your loud pronunciations of patriotism and "support for our troops" meaningless. You parrot patriotism without honoring it.
Let's make one thing clear. Terrorists, whether Al Qaida or Islamic radicals of another persuasion, do not pose an existential threat to this society, this nation. They have no army of any consequence that can stand against ours. They are capable of random acts of violence and occasional catastrophes such as 9/11, but they cannot bring down our government or nation. We will do that ourselves -- out of fear and base motives. Divide and conquer. Put in place laws to surveille everyone and everything; relinquish the moral and ethical high ground; adopt torture as a means to an end; use lies and propaganda to advance agendas; add the arrogance of power to ignore and break laws already in place; demonize those who don't share your views or values or point out those things you don't want to hear (those damn Liberals and Liberal Media!) Seven and a half years of Bush and Conservative agendas have given us: 9/11; two failed wars (not militarily. Politically and strategically); a 2 trillion dollar debt; the worst international reputation in every recent poll; Katrina; a 2 trillion dollar debt; Enron; Jack Abramoff; a 2 trillion dollar debt; a backward standard of living for a vast number of Americans; a dis-functional gov't. divided along ideological lines; a 2 trillion dollar debt; a tanking economy; long term environmental problems and a looming environmental catastrophe; a 2 trillion dollar debt ...
But here's the good news: you guys still have your guns -- and a V.P. that REALLY knows how to shoot one. The bad news is that within a short space of time you won't have anything to shoot at. I don't suppose we should place any of the blame for that on the enlightened environmental policies of the environmentally conscious Republican administration and Congress. Don't forget the immortal words of Sen. J Inhofe, Republican of Oklahoma: "Global warming is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American public." I'd amend that to "the Bush administration", but, hey I'm partisan as hell.
Oh well. When game disappears, you can use your guns on all your perceived enemies of the Republic. Lowell can use his squirrel gun, Homeless Joe his 10 ga.. Jim Legg will make his presence felt as will Tanky and others, and Larry can provide intel and carry the "flag".
I trust y"all will take this in the spirit intended. "Careful where you point that gun, son."
Regards,
Will

Obama is a board member of the Joyce Foundation, which is whole-heartedly anti-gun and funds anti-gun activities.

And the left is different how? We stand to lose no matter who wins.

True.

And he's still preferable to Clinton, IMO.

A good squirrel rifle is worth it's weight in gold; if and when your big SUV gets you there, it just might turn out to be a lead free zone! Could be even a little public wilderness area with the names of wildflowers along the pathways.

Well, aside from Will's discussion above, Obama looks to be the favorite at the present. If some of the above observations are correct (and I am too lazy to Google them), then Obama may be somewhat supportive of the right to own guns. And, he sure as heck will be into individual rights.
I suggest we all send him money and tell him we are doing it because we know he supports the free citizens right to own guns.
Economic persuasion, of someone who is not intractably against you, is really what drives politics and resulting policies.
So pony up boys.
Jake

Will, since time began, the Dems have had a reputation for "eating their young". Unfortunately, a bunch of rightwing blabbermouths (aka talk show hosts) are trying to convince the Republicans that's a good idea. I'm suspicious that some of them may be counting on better ratings for their shows if a Dem wins in Nov. Personally, although McCain was not my candidate of choice to start with, I'm doing my best to keep the cowboys on the ranch.

But I have to point out more than a bit of hyperbole in your post. I don't blame FDR for Pearl Harbor, even though we had far better reason to be prepared for that attack than we did for 9/11. Blaming Bush for 9/11 falls into the same category. Iraq . . . you can certainly blame him for that. But Clinton was president for nearly 2 1/2 years after AQ attacked our embassies in Africa, and what did he do about them? Had his counterterrorism point man, Richard Clarke, tell the Bush Administration "this is a threat you really need to worry about". Maybe he was more worried about Monica. And Katrina . . . now you're blaming Bush for the weather? Let's see, Iowa had the worst floods in its history in 1993. Clinton came, tossed a sandbag, bagged a photo op. Analysis: Dems cause floods, Republicans cause hurricanes. But Al Gore . . . he invented global warming.

I don't think anyone has blamed the current Administration for the weather. But the way "You're doin' a great job Brownie" and FEMA and the whole federal system dealt with that disaster was more than shameful. Much more.

Yeah, wow, big difference...
They are both rotten to the core. How does one choose from among such deprivation and decay?

...and what about the 17th st. levee jakearoo, was that the "much more"?