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Another neat book now digitized
An Illustrated Treatise on the Art of Shooting
Charles Lancaster 1906
http://books.google.com/books?id=O2GzwW9tKCoC&dq=damascus+barrels

I've given this link before
Experts on Guns and Shooting 1900
http://books.google.com/books?id=4xRmHkr7Lp8C&dq=damascus+barrels

Hello Doc,

Thank you for the link, but I wasn't able to read the book.

How do you do it?

JC

When I click on the link, there is a 'Read This Book' place to click.
Try this http://books.google.com/books?id=O2GzwW9tKCoC&printsec=titlepage&dq=damascus+barrels
It's mostly Lancaster marketing and ads, but lots of neat stuff at the end of the book. He promos his 'Pigmy' 2" load and Try Gun extensively.

Doc, no 'Read This Book' place for me. Probably a 3rd World Country thing, :-)

Pity.

JC

JayCee-I still owe you big time for the links to the Manufrance catalogs SO I've downloaded the digitized book as a PDF which my much smarter doc wife says I can e-mail you if you have Adobe Reader (whatever that means) and could do the same for any of the other digitized books I've linked. revdoc2@cox.net

Drew,
'The Art of Shooting' by Charles Lancaster (actually it was written by H A Thorn) I think is required reading by any shooting man.

Doc, you do not owe me anything! :-) Knowing that something I found is appreciated is retribution enough.

I think there must be a way to be able to read the Googled books. If I can't find it I'll take up your generous offer, especially after reading Sal's post above. (I do have Acrobat Reader, btw)

Best,

JC

revdocdrew,

Thank you!

Milt

JC I use a Mac also, currently using OS 10.4.11 and they show up fine.

What OS are you using? I can open with both Safari and Firefox.

Rob

Thanks to Dig and Raimey for another one!

Modern Sporting Gunnery, A Manual of Practical Information for Shooters of To-day, Henry Sharp, London, 1906

http://www.archive.org:80/details/modernsportinggu00sharuoft

Thanks to you also for the find. I just posed the question and Dig provided the answer.

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

And another classic

Instructions to Young Sportsmen in All that Relates to Guns and Shooting
Lt. Col. Peter Hawker and William Trotter Porton 1846
http://books.google.com/books?id=mHUCAAA...ol+peter+hawker

Col. Peter Hawker 1859
http://books.google.com/books?id=yXUCAAA...ol+peter+hawker

Revdocdrew, I would not mind a copy of the book to which you refer as now a PDF file. I got nowhere with the link.
Mike- mbonner@mts.net

Drew,

I have no joy with the initial link, but the two recently added books work for me.

If you are able to e-mail the An Illustrated Treatise on the Art of Shooting
Charles Lancaster 1906

I would greatly appreciate it.

rdube2518@rogers.com

Thanks

Mark

Sorry for the problems gentlemen, and I tried to e-mail Mike one of the books after downloading the PDF, but the server wouldn't accept it. Mark, I'll give your's a try, because it's only 211 pages but it may not work either.

Mark: I think your PDF e-mail went through.

Thanks Drew,

This just amazes me!

Try this one

http://www.archive.org/details/wildfowlersorspo00bradrich

Mark

The season here in the UK is reaching it's zenith with the Pheasants well muscled and feathered.After numerous times being pushed over the waiting guns we are now seeing truly wily cock birds ( and hens) that at the approach of the beaters footsteps light up the afterburners and fly to tremendous heights to evade the shot.
We have a quarterly magazine here called Fieldsports and the Winter edition carries an article about a syndicate in Yorkshire who only entertain 75+ yard high pheasants.
This got me thinking and whilst reading 'The Shotgun' by Macdonald Hastings he mentions that Sir Ralph Payne-Gallwey endeavoured to prove by practical experiment that truly high Pheasants show no mark on their carcases of the shot that killed them.He theorised that the turbulance caused by the shot destroyed the lift under the Pheasants wings causing it to crash out of control and be killed on impact with the ground.Gallwey hoisted pheasants upto great heights by means of kites and measuring the heights by paying out measured tethers he then shot at the lofted bird, retrieved the bird and carried out dissections to check the shot damage.If only I had the time!!!!
High Pheasants in Theory and Practice by Ralph Payne-Gallwey.

A book that's provides me with pleasure, reflection---I've been reading it for months---is "Hemingway In Africa, The Last Safari" (Harper Collins) by Christopher Ondaatje, a Canadian writer and philanthropist currently living in London, England. He has been particularly generous to the arts in Nova Scotia, where he also has a home.

In providing new material and insight into the important African phase of Hemingway's life, there's erudite and delicate handling of the paradox of why and how we hunt from many perspectives: Selous, Denys Finch Hatton. Theodore Roosevelt, the safari historian Kenneth Cameron, Rene Maran, Bartle et al.

Hemingway himself gave no philosophical arguments pertaining to appreciation and empathy of an animal and bird, and the joy of killing it, stone dead at his feet. In the Green Hills of Africa, his own personal justification for his shooting:

"I did nothing that had not been done to me. I had been shot and had been crippled and got away. I expected always, to be killed for one thing or another and I, truly, did not mind that any more. Since I still loved to hunt I resolved that I would only shoot as long as I could kill cleanly and as soon as I lost that ability I would stop."

What's most interesting to me is that while retracing every step of Hemingway's last safari, Ondaatje traces Hemingway's changing attitudes toward hunting between the first and second safaris, an ambivalence, admitting his feelings of guilt, believing it's a sin to kill any non-dangerous game animal except for meat, discovering watching and photographing wildlife meant more to him.

Ondaatje handles the complex ethics of hunting beautifully.

Here's another good (and short) one by Hastings from 1976
Shooting--Why We Miss: Questions and Answers on the Successful Use of the Shotgun

Hello Rob,

Sorry for not responding before, I had not seen your post.

I am using OSX 10.5.1 (the latest I believe). Curiously enough the links first posted by Doc are still without the "Read this Book" tab, but the ones recently posted work ok (Hawker & Trotter).

Thanks for your feedback.

JC

As a writer, I have to wonder about all this "digitized" stuff. Somebody, I would think, still owns the rights to the books mentioned--especially the more recent ones. Is that somebody receiving any proceeds from the book being digitized? When I sell a magazine article, the understanding is that I'm selling first time print rights only. If someone wants to reprint, or to buy electronic rights, they have to negotiate separately with me.

This is one reason why Hollywood writers are on strike as we speak.

Larry: it looks like the books are either out of copyright, or permission has been given Google by the publisher. On several of the intro pages, options are given for purchase of the book, and Google has disabled the ability to 'cut and paste' section of the digitized books
http://books.google.com/intl/en/googlebooks/about.html