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PeteM ---- thanks for the picture of John and Lucky as well as picture of newly cased action. I just realized that the picture of the guy holding the LC action under the color cased one is me ---- how did that happen ? Did you know John has moved operations to Crete ? Ken



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Thanks Ken! Here is the new contact infro:

Classic Guns Inc.
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Originally Posted By: Ken Hurst
PeteM ---- thanks for the picture of John and Lucky as well as picture of newly cased action. I just realized that the picture of the guy holding the LC action under the color cased one is me ---- how did that happen ? Did you know John has moved operations to Crete ? Ken


Ahh Ken,

You spoiled it. I was going to hold a contest to see who could name that engraver.


Kick around the net long enough and you find all sorts of interesting pictures.
Actually, John had asked for a picture of his favorite engraver. I stopped by the shop drop it off.

Yep, he getting closer to me. Actually it only cuts a few minutes off the drive time.

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Two bucks says that he is barefoot at the time the picture was taken. Well known fact that engravers need toe freedom to do their best work. Good blood flow to the piggies also means good blood flow to the brain.

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Ahhhh Mr. Jon, you got me. Fact is , I'm barefooted now as I have been engraving all day. Kinda hard to break the habit --- hard core country I guess. I tried to forward you pictures of that Baker I did for myself but guess I had the wrong address. Email me and I'll forward the pictures to you.

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Never seen one cracked thru the sear axle holes. The one above is cracked thru the hammer axle bearing.

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It would appear on those guns the rotary bolt was (As Usual) only "Fit Up" to do half it's job. With the bolt properly fit up to hold the standing Breech "Up to the Bbls" a Sterly frame shoukld take about anything one could throw at it. The supposed "Superiority" of the Rotary Bolt is only realized "IF" it fits.


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Turnbull recased a Charlin sliding breech action gun for me, better than a decade ago, I'm guessing. That gun appears in a photo in Double Gun Journal in the Darne piece I wrote. If there is an action that won't take ANY warpage, it is a Charlin, and Mr. Turnbull promised and delivered.

Had I seen various cracked Parkers, LC Smiths, Savage 5100, Iver Johnson Hercules, Ithacas, of any sort or, come to think of it, Tobins, a design, by the way, that I believe really should crack on occasion, since not all that much supports the standing breech under those lockplates, I would have posted that.

But, all I've seen are broken Foxs. Not just here, either. Now, I would no more feed a roman candle duck load to a Fox then I would my Tobin, but, those broken Fox pictures are a little too easy to find on the net. Miller's point is a good one, but, little old me always assumed the weak link might/should be the barrels.

A frame, springing a leak like that, right under 'me little cheapskate nose, would give me the willies. Hell, the picture does.

I'll leave the "hows and whys" to others, and feed my 100 year or so old Tobin, low pressure stuff, only on occasion. The rest of the time, it'll be in the safe.

The guy who color case hardens Sterrit brand tools once told me, "Color case hardening isn't an exact science, and, sometimes, you get what you get".

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The number of Sterlingworths made, and the what you've seen on the net Ted, makes 'em a pretty good bet.
There have been pictures of ruptured LC barrels and the cracked frame 20g Flues also.
The Sterlingworth was the cream of the crop of the field grades, and was hunted the hard way no doubt.

Do tell Ted...you've one that stays in the safe...I won't tell!

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2 3/4" chamber Fox HE after abundant 3" duck loads courtesy of CC (the pic, not the duck loads )


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