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If I knew then what I knew now, I would have gone to your bank and second mortgaged my house.

GWP, maybe you and I need to talk about my 16 gauge O/U that came from the vast Brown Ltd. Gun Library. I'll bet we can handle it without a second mortgage on your digs. It's in considerably higher condition than the one initially mentioned, however. There is an email address in my profile if you are interested. We'll keep Bro. Dave involved as well.

Chief, just to correct an erroneous impression, my "gun library" has never been very vast. I have owned a bunch of guns, but only a relative few at a time. And being much more in the shooter than collector category, if I don't shoot them well (or if I see something I think I like better), then there's some turnover in the inventory.

That O/U "Sporter" at Littlegun site looks like a decent clay crusher. I would not mind paying 700USD if it fit me well.

Gentlemen,

I could not find a dating letter on my O/U so the manufacture date shall remain a mystery. On the other hand, I just returned from Cabela's in Hamburg with my friend Rich. We looked over the SxS Masquelier Jaeger double. A very nice gun indeed. If my memory serves me correctly the date code was an "l" which would indicate a 1973 manufacture. My buddy Rich, opened his wallet and now the gun belongs to him. I am now officially announcing the formation of "The Masquelier Paul Jaeger Shotgun Collectors Society" herein after to be known as the "TMPJSCS". Our membership currently stands at two. The next meeting, to elect officers, will be held in a phone booth, the location of which will be determined at a later date.

Thanks to all for the help in my quest and here is hoping everyone has a nice and safe holiday season.

Courtesy of CC/dt. Masquelier 12b O/U, Side Opening Lever, Auto Ejectors, on the trigger-plate "Built for King Leopold of Belgium." His commentary to follow:

Thanks to revdocdrew for posting my OLD photos from aprox. 1973-5.Shot them with my c 1970 Honywell Pentax Brass Body 35mm.100 asa.Kodak Print Film. I used to help a friend with the'Dev & Printing....Now that really dates me & my Pics...Them prints aint arf bad for as old as they are...Plus no tripod and a 'Flash"!! If anybody knows the whereabouts of the Masquelier 12 O/U I still have the 'Butt-End' I cut from the stock for the 'Next Owner after "Self" had been shooting Boxed Birds and had the 'Livin Stuffin Knocked out of me with 2.3/4"Fed.1.1/4oz'Pigeon Loads.I think the guns weight was aprox.6.9ozs,with the Chequered Butt-End..It had had 2 previous owners,prior to "Self' "JRN." & WJ Holliday sr. of Indianapolis.Nobody could shoot Pigeons well with it.I think the chokes were 8" long and both had a 75% pattern @35 yds...with #7.1/2 shot.It would be "Interesting to know the Orig Factory Records????at one time in its life I am led to belive it was owned by King Farouk of Egypt. I sold it into New Mexico around1983 or 4...I think. Beautiful Gun to look at,but a'Beast to shoot! Have quite a number of "Prints" with Notable"Celebs" admiring it at Kingens Gun Club,McCordsville Ind. in the late 1970s. cc/dt

ChiefShotguns,
If I may ask about your Masquelier Daly O/U? ...the one with a left/right toggle in front of the trigger (barrel selector)..Is the gun marked Daly, Masquelier, or both? Are there any Masquelier touchmarks like the triange mask? Maybe a raised D in a sunken diamond?

Are there any indications whether or not the action was supplied by Suhler Waffenwerk (Merkel)? Not necessarily German marks, as Suhler Waffenwerk had a facility in Anvers Belgium (now Antwerp)...any GM marks?

Robert, I have had a bit of a rough day today with a young grandaughter who had to be picked up a school by ambulance and rushed to the emergency room in great pain. Turns out it's relatively not so bad, an ovarian cyst that is bursting or something. I don't know much about that stuff, but I know I am bushed. I just checked in to see what is going on before hitting the sack and saw your note. I'll get it out in the AM and check those proof marks. The gun is marked Charles Daly, not Masquelier. Larry Brown had done some research when he owned it and determined it was a Masquelier made gun, based, I believe, partly on prior writings by Don Zutz. I actually had the same books he referred to and agreed with his conclusions completely. Since then, I discovered a link to an entry on littlegun (I think that's right) that actually pictured a Masquelier marked gun that appeared identical. I think I still have that link and will send it as well. I later read somewhere else, maybe either in a DGJ or SS article, not sure right now, where Masquelier came along in the Daly lineage of makers after they lost their earlier connections with the other known makers, after Lindner was gone and after Sauer was out of the picture. I'll see what the marks say and let you know in the AM. It does not have the common Masquelier triangle mask mark. The D may be there, I'll look. It's a fine gun, made in 1933 if I remember right. I don't shoot it much anymore, it also doesn't fit me quite right. I may move it on to someone who fits it better than me.

Morning Robert. I checked all the marks that are visible, I do not see any raised D in a sunken diamond, nor the common Masquelier triangle mask mark. There is a Crown over D mark, and usual other Belgian proofs, but nothing else. I do not believe this is a Merkel produced action. I do have the following, which I downloaded some time back from an area on littlegun. I can't seem to go back to it, however, they tell me now a subscription is required, and I have not subscribed.




This apparently is an ad they picked up from some publication and uploaded to littlegun. The photograph shows an action which is shaped exactly like mine, same pin locations, same reinforce buttress, everything seems exactly like mine but much plainer. Mine has a good bit of very good engraving, very good case colors remaining, that Miller SST, and better wood. Don Zutz seemed convinced these Charles Daly marked guns were made by Masquelier, and after reading his printed story and seeing the ad and photo above from littlegun, I agree. Hope this helps.