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Hi, I may have an chance to buy a Patric Mullin muzzle loading shotgun. I've never seen one before,it is a beautiful gun.
The gun is an 8g single barrel percussion gun.The damascuss barrel is huge at the breech and tapers nicely to the muzzle.
I find it odd butt the gun doesn't have a place for a ramrod.
Does anyone know were I can find info on the gun,or a person to contact.I really don't know how to put a value on it.
Thanks Dave

I Know a little @ P Mullin-Have sent PM with contact info
Reguards
Bill McPhail

You can drop me a note as well at mjpetrov(at)acsalaska.net,pictures would help.

I have just three words of advice.
Buy the gun.
Best,
John

Here is his obit, intersting about the markings denoting guns he made marked"Patrick Mullin" vs guns he finished marked "P Mulln". I wonder if that holds true with some of the other great early american makers. Schaefer,Kirkwood,Etc what do you think???
Ross


Obituary

Also interesting the article says his guns were $400-$1000. Id love to see some of the $1000 dollar guns, I bet they were stunning.
Ross

Didn't Mullin have a brother who was also a gunmanker, or am I thinking of Kirkwood?

John Mullin [brother?] made muzzleloaders , but I have not seen a breechloader marked by John Mullin.

Thanks, Daryl. Here is a link with a reference to the Mullin brothers. http://books.google.com/books?id=DJoCAAA...LaBik1Bj6obR1Yo

John Mullin (Patrick's older brother) was in New York @1841-61.
He made Sporting rifles Shotguns and Pistols. Have 2 Cased John.
Mulln 12 G M/L's. Parick showed up @ 1850-probably worked with
John a year or so. Doubt if Patrick's gun were as expensive at
the start. Most likely the quality of his guns were noticed
and demand became greater therfore the price went up. Of the
guns I've seen only two wer mared "Patick Mullin". The others
marked "P Mullin" were Barrell actions fit and finished by
Patrick. Noted by his peers to be the Best. All guns seen
with only screw engaving and not choked. He was The Man and still
is in my book.
Bill Mcphail

It doesn't have a place for a ramrod because it's a live pigeon gun. They didn't use them in the field so there was no reason to have a rod with them at all times.


Destry

Any idea how many Mullin guns are still known to be around?

OWD

Well I never started a database or anything like that on the Mullins guns. I no longer have that as-new 10 gauge or my 4 gauge, kept my little (for a Mullin)12 gauge double. Over the years I have read about and know of about maybe 30 or so total. They surface very often and when they do they are overlooked because as a general rule most people equate an expensive gun with engraving, no engraving, no sale. The 10 gauge I bought in Vegas a few years ago had been carried to many gunshows with zero interest according to the owner. If anyone has a Mullin I would like to learn about it.

4-gauge Mullin

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v311/mjpetrov/?action=view&current=mvc-oo2w.flv

What kind of charge did you have in that 4 gauge when you fired it?

I've shot driven ducks in England with a double 4 bore Holland & Holland firing 3 ounces of shot out of each tube and it didn't recoil anything like that.


Destry

Judging by the laughter...that you behind the camera Mike?

Gave me a good chuckle too!

Best,
Mark

Destry,
I remember 3oz shot but don't remember the amount of powder, remember that it was full of 2F. The film is of my friend Mike who, in all fairness, was standing on some very slipper ice ;-). When I shot the gun there was not a step backwards but then I'm a little larger than Mike.

Mark,
I was laughing so hard that I forgot I was running the camera and pointed it at the ground, a fun day.

I have a John Mullin 8g sxs ML.

Cody,

I seem to remember whey you were buying that gun, could you post a picture? I don't get to see many and it would be a treat. I just looked through my Mullin pictures, is this your gun?

Yup. that would be it. If you would like any better pics for your file, let me know what you need.

Thanks for the interest,information,and advice on this sight and off. I'll be seeing the seller in a week or two.I'll let you know how I make out.
Thanks again Dave

What an perfect closure--so much better than the unpleasant noise increasingly apparent on other threads--we need to move away from such "noise" on this Board---in my view.

Berrien

Before all Hell Break Out--

Please change "an perfect closure" to "a perfect closure"

Berrien

Cody, If it's not a big deal I would like to see a picture of the name from both the lock and barrels. Thanks,

Dave,

Good luck on the purchase, and keep us posted how it turns out.

Berrien,

Good to see you posting here, looking forward to more ;-).

How's this,

That's great Cody, looks very nice close up, enjoy. I owned a few Patric but never a John, thanks for sharing.