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I purchased the 10 GA CEO from Ben Loving that Reseacher refers to and yes it has been restocked. Looking at the
photo above and looking at my 10 GA in hand I would
have to agree that it sure looks like a 12 GA. Mine
is marked on the barrel flats 10 GAUGE 2 7/8.

I also have a KE 12 GA that has a factory original
straight grip stock that I purchased 30 years ago
at a local gun show. I have not seen another one
since. I was wondering if anyone reading this has
seen another one out there?
MS

Confirmed from Cabelas:
Ross,



Apologies for the delay in response, I have been out of the office. To answer your question, the serial number on the trigger guard tang does not match the water table or the forend.



Best,





Adam Smith

Cabela's

Gun Library Sales Specialist

Hazelwood, Missouri

Phone: (314) 225-0121

Fax: (314) 225-0131

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Hi Yes MJS, I have a 1900 KE grade 16ga.(later style with concave rib) with original straight stock. And I have seen 4 or 5 but were were all 12ga. gun's. I collect only 16ga Remington's.

It's a 12 ga., barrels measure 31-15/16".

The water table is stamped "C", it's an ejector so it's a "CE", but what make's it an "O"? The water table has the serial number 1360XX stamped and off to the side a small "F".

The lower tang has the "F" as part of the serial number, F1360XX.

It's a bad restock, the bores are pitted but still measure in at .729 with .030 &.43 choke.

Also on the bottom of the barrels ahead of the flats the letters OEV are stamped vertically with three hash marks over them and perhpas large numbers under them.

More comments?

A C- or CE-Grade would have Damascus barrels. A CO- or CEO-Grade would have Ordnance Steel barrels. When the Model 1894 was introduced, they all had Damascus barrels. When Remington introduced their Remington and Ordnance Steel barrels in 1897, the written grade designations got an appended R or O. Apparently with the Model 1900s the Remington Steel barrels were considered standard and the grade designations were K- or KE-Grade and if a Model 1900 had Damascus barrels a D was appended to the grade designation -- KD- or KED-Grade.

What you are reading as an F in the serial number on the trigger guard tang is really a P, the Remington Arms Co. inventory letter for Model 1894 doubles. The letter for the Model 1900 doubles is Q.

Would 2-7/8" chambers be right for this gun?

Normally the 12-gauge Remington hammerless doubles were chambered 2 5/8 inches, but I'm sure for a graded gun the boys at Ilion would chamber it any length the customer wanted. At the time your gun was made, their ammunition business, UMC at Bridgeport, Conn., would provide loaded 12-gauge paper shells in any length from 2 5/8 to 3 1/4 inch. Just remember that those longer shells were for more and better wadding, not a heavier load. The heaviest smokeless 12-gauge loads offered were 3 1/2 drams equiv. and 1 1/4 ounces of shot. Generally the 3 1/4 dram equiv. and 1 1/4 ounces of shot was considered a better balanced load.

FYI the CEO I was inquiring about just sold at a general auction for just about $1060 with commission & tax.