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What the hell is your point Craig? Do you think school shooting teams and youth licenses are a problem? What results are you implying? For a positive outcome they need to sign up for the young Republicans club? I see getting youth involved with the outdoors as a positive thing, apparently we have different views on the matter.

I know beyond any doubt, that your first line is unquestionable for many of us, but I believe we all know there is a shrinking landscape. If hunters walk the walk, shouldn't they have a say in what their place is.

Why won't anyone ask, why were songbirds brought up at this meeting, and what was the motivation? Were songbirds brought up in the context of an entire ecosystem, or as an incidental antihunting point to fire up that base. Does context matter. If any of those who gave you a like, said they've never seen hunting grounds closed due to a non game species lobbying effort, would anyone believe them.

You challenge me to show some empirical evidence and then do so yourself. You are being wilfully obtuse and a great example why the left of centre has been eating the right of centre's lunch for 60 years. You think you can limit the issue to just the US. Or just teenage ecology groups? Simply laughable Craig. I don't know why you are arguing with me about this, as the evidence is everywhere, except an utter unwillingness to concede ANY point to the other side. The Right fails to learn again and again. Why do you think the younger crowd is currently so enamoured with socialism? Despite it's abject failure everywhere at every point in time? It's because it's activists won't give up. They infiltrated our educational system, and through that our media and they won't stop.

I'm making a point about tactics and you respond as though we have different objectives. Nutty!

No big deal cback, you may recall I’ve had some of the same thoughts, on and off, as you are expressing now. Let’s give you the win here, on the subject of empirical data?

I’m wondering why there’s willful ignoring of my hope that results can be shown. However it is painted, I can recognize this thread as an empirical data win for the left, success, proof, what have you. Is less of a loss, a win, sure, but on whose landscape?

One way, I’m certain not the best, is to recall how much fun, I believe you said you had in the US Dakotas, shooting pistols? I can see and understand empirical wins for the left, but it’s not the same situation for places that have already lost, in many more quantifiable ways? I choose to narrow the conversation to locales that I perceive are on the cusp of losing far morel?

So, we have your strategy of taking on the left with an ineffective version of itself, and then we have the mentioned apathy, and then we have our friends at the shooting range and in the field, voting against us.

So yes, a win is defined as successfully recruiting young folks who will vote for candidates that you approve of. I would frame a win as introducing young folks to shooting sports and the outdoors, I would hope that might translate into newbies who value both nature and shooting sports.

Metoo Steve. But, we don’t even know if a single kid has signed up to participate so far, let’s temper our foregone conclusions? Or, maybe prof was spot on, we are powerless to have convictions, without a grant. Let’s get busy, nut job right wingers have an equal chance at the cash.

When you hit the grant lotto, I’ll volunteer to help you start a gun making shop, in those denver hs? But hey, good news, my youngest was kicking some rear end working in denver commercial real estate, and they moved out of state, citing the crime, just two months ago. Weird.

I'll go out on a limb here.....more than on kid will sign up. You know you might have a point though, a bet a billionaire somewhere needs a tax break far more than a young kid needs to be introduced to the outdoors.

Some folks are indeed conviction free. I'll let you read between the lines and connect the dots in that regard


Pro tip for your youngest Craig, try a longer commute if you want to work in the big city but sleep easy at night. I figured that one out in my 20's.

Stay peachy.....
Steve

It's more of a last three to five year thing, Steve. They are smart enough to steer away from questionable places and situations, but the rate of violent crime is on a sharp increase. In just the last couple of years, there's been a noticable change in the boldness of illegal aliens, welcomed by the current administration. No, a few years ago, Denver was more of a many interesting nooks and crannies, traffic snarl place, than a big city that one couldn't sleep at night. Coloradans are going through a big transition now, but what would one expect of a state that puts pet dogs on a pedastal, over human life, right? You stay rolling....

To be fair, I do like dogs better than the vast majority of people

I have never really cared for Denver, I worked all over there as field tech in the late 90's, and it has been on a fairly steady decline since in my opinion. Things are changing in Colorado and many other places, the influx of immigrants is just one of the many issues we face. I'm not so sure the issues in Denver are much different from others cities the same size though, crime tends to be concentrated in urban areas, one of the many reasons I chose to buy in a rural area.

I'll just keep trucking on......

Just read what their mission is. It has absolutely nothing to do with hunting or shooting. I did not see that mentioned or in any of the bios. They make it sound like old white men have prohibited “ the underrepresented “ from enjoying the outdoors. No one has ever prevented anyone from enjoying the out doors, no matter who they are .That’s the whole aim. The evil white man again. How long will it take before they start preaching anti hunting. Everything the left does is about their agenda , this will be no different