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From the description: "A very high quality gun, inexplicably unsigned. " www.hallowellco.com/english____boxlock_ejector____12.htmlI wonder if it even has a serial number. Do we see sterile British shotguns at all? Any ideas how that might have come about? And would anyone care to take a stab at guessing its maker, based on the design, the pin locations....?
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Are we sure it's British?
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Reminds me of a Dan Fraser gun.
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Too much drop in stock, and may have a sunken rib, which I personally abhor, but otherwise a nice gun. Price is nothing but throwing it against the wall and see what sticks. Needs thinwall choke tubes, afaic.
JR
Last edited by John Roberts; 01/08/24 08:08 PM.
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Are we sure it's British? Not sure of anything. However, the Birmingham proofmarks suggest it's probably not a Baikal.
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Too much drop in stock, but a nice gun. Price is nothing but throwing it against the wall and see what sticks. Needs thinwall choke tubes, afaic.
JR Perfect drop at the heel, as far as I'm concerned. A bit short LOP. Really nice piece of wood and beautifully carved fences that deserve a few more photographs.
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...Needs thinwall choke tubes... I was thinking the same thing. If you're going to mess around with an English shotgun, mess around with one that will have little or no value to the carriage trade- an unattributable example. I'd get a pair of Skeet tubes, and a fistload of Modifieds and tighter for Trap, and be silly-happy, and I'd shoot the whee out of it. "Oh, hey, cool side-by-side! Looks English! Is that a Purdey-Richards or something?" "No one knows. No rollmarks. It's an enigma. It may in fact be Estonian." I think it's a really pretty shotgun, which is why I'm so curious about how it came to be adrift, records-wise. (And yes, Professor, that wood and those fences.)
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As an importer, I've see many no name Brit guns. It does looks sculpted like a Fraser.
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The chokes are about perfect for anything I’d do with it. For some reason, I’m able to shoot a gun with 2 3/4” drop just fine off my right shoulder, which I could never do off my left shoulder. It looks to be in spectacular condition, but, I’d guess as a box lock ejector, it is priced about double what it is worth here in the US. I think that would be generous. If it was still in England, the family would be looking for about 1000£ for it, and would be thrilled to get 750£.
It would be nice to have an English gun that you could feed off-the-shelf ammunition to. I likely wouldn’t feed it a steady diet of 1 1/4 oz loads, but, hell, a guy could.
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