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6 lbs even with either 28 inchers and a BTFE of 30 inchers and a SFE Nice. What make is that? my eyes stink.
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Other than the weight for all day carry in the woods for woodcock and quail, the cost effectiveness of reloading it separates it from larger gauges. Gil
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6 lbs even with either 28 inchers and a BTFE of 30 inchers and a SFE Nice. What make is that? my eyes stink. Looks to me like a CSMC Fox 'cause Ansley never made a 28.
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I was skeet shooting once a week for some time using a 20 ga. Winchester 101 with 26" barrels that I bought in Germany and sent home. When I got married my wife wanted to shoot also but the 20 gauge reoil was hard on her. For Christmas in 1970 or '71 I bought her a Beretta BL-4 28 ga with 26" barrels, this had some recoil also and after she didn't enjoy shooting it or shooting at all. The Beretta weighed 6 lbs.8 ozs. and the Winchester was 6 lbs. 1 oz. I still own both but haven't shot the Winchester in quite a few years, the Beretta about 5 years ago at skeet. I hurt my right shoulder years ago and was shooting different L.C. Smith's, mostly old hammer guns and I started loading 3/4 oz. loads, what a pleasure to shoot hardly any felt recoil and as the saying goes "if I do my part they will do theirs". Carrying in the field I would rather carry the Beretta or the Winchester for the amount of shooting that is done and miles walked, but I do like the one hammer gun in particular that now has the original 25 3/16" barrels and 4 others that now fit this gun. The latest set is from a Specialty Grade 32" with a ventilated rib and screw in chokes. There is nothing magical about the 28 ga. Years ago I killed more than my fair share of pen raised pheasants most of which you have to wait for them to get out there.
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On the topic of 28-gauge weight... My newest one weighs a touch under 5 lbs 7 ozs. Shooting four rounds of Trap with it Saturday was definitely not a recoil-flavored event, not with 3/4-ounce #8 Skeet loads. Except...
There were a couple of shots in my last two rounds where the launcher pitched the pigeon high and way off to my right. (I shoot right-handed.) I clearly remember being surprised when my shoulder got firmly thumped when I went after those, after a couple-three boxes of what had seemed like shooting a .22LR biathlon rifle standing, unsupported. I'm guessing I let the buttplate come off my shoulder a bit. I also sense that shooting this thing repeatedly at porcelain penguins would be a markedly different experience were its weight somehow magically-reduced to under 5 lbs. Physics wins most arguments.
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The 28 gauge is for relief of boredom. A 20 ga. with 3/4 Oz. loads neutralizes any need for a 28 ga. Yes, it's a hair smaller across the breech face, and yes, the shells are a wee bit smaller in the pocket. Nothing really worth much. There are some really slim and trim 20 gauge guns that will match a 28 gauge's handling qualities. Otherwise, it's just a boutique gauge with guns to match. It serves no other practical purpose. But since when does practicality matter to anyone who wants a 28 gauge? JR
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Mister Schefelbein, there are things sticking out of it when it's open! Please wear Kevlar gloves and eye-protection! Keep your nails trimmed!
It must cost you a fortune in high-pressure grease. Nothing but flats, for all the eye can see.
(I've never handled or even seen a Darne on a table, but I'd love to someday. And I'd be delighted to start with that one. What an interesting, lovely piece of kit.)
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The 28 gauge is for relief of boredom.... But since when does practicality matter to anyone who wants a 28 gauge? JR Interesting perspective. I've never even fired a shot out of a 20-gauge. Have never wanted to. I have a quartet of wildly-dissimilar 12s and and a brace of 28s. Extremes of commercially-available, practical practicality. And that's why I have them. Not bored. Interested in the differences? Yes.
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Ed,
I use my aya#1 28 on grouse, quail, woodcock and shot some released pheasants. I use my Rizzini o/u 28 on hairs, ptarmigan and a few grouse. I have a new Beretta A400 upland auto, I used for the first time this year on ducks and honkers.
If you're on your game the 28 kills just as good as your 20 or 12.
I was using boss 3/4 oz of 4s through the beretta. 1 goose, 3 wood ducks and 1 green wing. Pass shooting between the ponds.
For all the other birds, 8 or 7.5 shot AA loads. Doves I have been running RTS 9s. Pheasant I believe I was using 6s.
I'll be running some TSS patterns to see how the beretta throws a pattern for this years Turkey season.
RJM
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