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Originally Posted by BrentD, Prof
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Dogon;
I also suspect that the Turks are using modern glues in lieu of solf-solder as well.
Would an industrial/aircraft-grade adhesive/bonding agent not work on this? Some of that stuff is incredibly strong. Experts on this can let us know.
JR


John;

I am convinced that the similar adhesive that is being used to "glue" carbide tips to circular saw blades would work with flying colors.

Makes me wonder if ribs and barrels could be mated the same way.


I saw several places selling vent ribs and bonded mounting pillars many years ago.

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Good luck if you have to repair a glued rib, loup

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Originally Posted by John Roberts
Originally Posted by bushveld
Dogon;
I also suspect that the Turks are using modern glues in lieu of solf-solder as well.
Would an industrial/aircraft-grade adhesive/bonding agent not work on this? Some of that stuff is incredibly strong. Experts on this can let us know.
JR

What exactly is this stuff, John? Sounds like it might could have applications on the farm here. The most amazing stuff I've run across is called Belzona. It's used in similar applications as J-B Weld or PC-7 epoxies, but is incredibly stronger.


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Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Originally Posted by John Roberts
Originally Posted by bushveld
Dogon;
I also suspect that the Turks are using modern glues in lieu of solf-solder as well.
Would an industrial/aircraft-grade adhesive/bonding agent not work on this? Some of that stuff is incredibly strong. Experts on this can let us know.
JR

What exactly is this stuff, John? Sounds like it might could have applications on the farm here. The most amazing stuff I've run across is called Belzona. It's used in similar applications as J-B Weld or PC-7 epoxies, but is incredibly stronger.

Don't ask me, Stan. I just know this stuff exists. And if something over-the-counter is stronger than JB Weld, I want it.
JR


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https://www.belzona.com/en/products/1000/1111.aspx

Belzona, Inc.
2000 N.W. 88th Court, Miami, Florida 33172
U.S.A.
Telephone: +1 (305) 594-4994

Maybe they will send you a small sample to test smile

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A good starter reference on adhesives:

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/bonding-and-assembly-us/structural-adhesives/

The 3M stuff is about the best.

You guys all act like you’ve never seen a gun in this condition before. I’m going to save this picture for when somebody is saying how wonderful their sleeved gun is.

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Solder and brazing have the advantage of being more easily repaired. Good luck if you are trying to repair a joint that has used a super adhesive or need to remove the residual "glue."

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Originally Posted by skeettx
https://www.belzona.com/en/products/1000/1111.aspx

Belzona, Inc.
2000 N.W. 88th Court, Miami, Florida 33172
U.S.A.
Telephone: +1 (305) 594-4994

Maybe they will send you a small sample to test smile

I have a "source" for a little Belzona without ordering it retail, from a friend who is putting a nose cone on the lower unit of a 40 hp Tohatsu 2 stroke outboard for me with it. He has a "source", too. The stuff is outrageously expensive but, according to another friend who has used it also, worth every penny.

What Stephen said about the carbide tips being attached to saw blades with an adhesive has me still in awe. I had no idea.


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Hello Ted,are you saying sleeved guns have a similar problem of the lump falling off?

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I’ve used Belzona to repair leaking fuel tanks that couldn’t be taken out of service for traditional repairs. They used to provide sample packets for testing, but that has been a few years ago.


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