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The price tag on my last can of Promo says $124.99 with a date of 3-2018.

Grafs when they had it in stock last month showed $255.99.

That's over 100% in 5 years. Inflation depending on who you believe shows 22-28% over the 5 year time period.

Gentlemen, we are being screwed.

I bought Alliant/Hercules powder for decades before I ever switched to the 'powder trust' and their imported stuff after Alliant's manufacturer induced 'shortage' several years ago.

I've been buying 'Perfect Pattern', NSI primers, and shot made in both Spain and Turkey just to have something to shoot.

To top it off, our club just paid over $17 a box for White Flyers delivered. Another product that has outstripped inflation by a good amount.

Joe Average is about to be priced completely out of this sport.

Clay target shooting is not an inexpensive sport. The club close to where I live charges 9.00 for a round of trap or skeet. I do not shoot there as I belong to a club that is nicer and less expensive. The stuff always works and it keep up nicer. However it is private.

John
Arrieta2

I belong to a club where members (cost of membership is nominal) can purchase cards for 20 rounds of trap or skeet for $70. Components are expensive. But members get some savings because the club makes bulk orders twice a year. The club has no paid employees. Everything done by volunteers. And we're doing well enough that we just paid for cement work to include all new pads and walkways. We also offer 5 stand. The club remains open for shooting year round, 2 days a week. Because we're located in northern Wisconsin, shooting during the winter months can be challenging. But there are almost always a few hard core types who show up.

Shotgun shooters seem to have received the short end of the component stick. I can find plenty of rifle and pistol powders but around here shotgun powders are hard to come by. Vista Outdoors has assembled a monopoly over components which I think is the cause of availability issues. Monopolies are bad. The foreign ammo makers have managed to find a foothold here and they are getting my bumwad dollars. In regards to inflation, without getting political, it’s debasement of the currency caused by reckless and feckless spending.

Beware of internet ads with popular powders priced too good to be true. Lots of scams still out there. Graf and Sons, Precision Reloading, and Ballistic Products can be trusted. As has been noted in another thread, traditional powders such as Red Dot are sky high compared to two years ago, but newer powders such as Perfect Pattern are relatively inexpensive--better than half price of Red Dot. Hodgdon relies on a Canadian MFG for some of its Clay lines and I wonder if Ukraine arty and SA demands have affected civilian mfg. Gil

Midway Arms is trustworthy. I live halfway between Graf and Sons and Midway Arms and purchase components from both of them. A bonus is that with pick-up, I avoid shipping and hazmat fees.

I'd ad Recobs to the "trusted" list of places that stock and sell a lot of components.

FYI Gee-Whiz stuff here.

I did an Argentina dove shoot last June. The outfitter was telling us they were being rationed on 12 & 20ga ammo and couldn't get 28 or .410. When asked why they were having a shortage. The answer was that 80% of the powder produced in Argentina was being exported to America. I don't know the whole story, but I do believe what I was told.

The public shooting park I go to around here is now charging $40.00 for a round of 100 sporting clays & if you have to buy ammo there it's $15.00 a box. That makes it a $100.00 per round-- pretty expensive in my book. Thankfully I don't have to buy ammo from them, but I wouldn't be willing to pay this kind of cash to shoot some clay birds.

If you want to shoot, you gotta pay.

FITASC requires factory ammunition.
100 birds will run more than $150.00

I shoot at one of the premier clubs in my state. Annual membership dues are $133.00. Trap and skeet cost $5.00 a round. Sporting clays are $25.00 per 50 targets. They are all remote, so I can shoot by myself. Like Mr. Brown, a member at my club can purchase a shooting card - 10 rounds get one free. I shoot 4-5 rounds of trap a week. Maybe some skeet. I reload my own. I have noticed it is getting more expensive to reload, but I have to have something to do in my spare time that I enjoy.