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#627909 03/24/23 12:56 AM
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Went to a shop I hadn't been to in a while today on the way home from an unusual "field" job. It was a smaller mom & pop operation that is now being run by the son & his family (& seemingly well-enough). They've always had a slightly better than average selection of older used guns (and lots of other good, used, outdoor stuff too). I was there because I had been planning on consigning a few of my subgauge upland pump guns (Model 12s, 37s, etc.) to pay for the next potential acquisition. Long story short, the place was dripping with guns...and not all the usual plastic "crap" (although there was plenty of that there still too). A very decent LC Smith Featherweight Field grade 16 ejector, an A grade 16 Fox, a Remington solid-ribbed Model 17, and even an uncut .30-40 Craig-Jorgensen was on display and for very reasonable money. I don't remember ever seeing this sort-of variety here before now, and there were simply too-many comparable (& similar) guns for me to add my meager examples to the pile. You still don't see these sort of firearms in the big box stores just yet, but...it really made me wonder... is the party over for this type of entry-level gun now? No more "newbies" coming into the used-gun market anymore?

What says the cognoscenti here?

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Lloyd,
I believe you went through Joe’s, last time you were here. I was there a few months past, and surprised by the sign that said they no longer were accepting consignments.

They didn’t have space for anymore of them.

Take it for what it is.

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Ted

Lloyd3 #627911 03/24/23 07:59 AM
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"is the party over for this type of entry-level gun now? No more "newbies" coming into the used-gun market anymore?"

It is just my opinion, but I have felt that hunting and shooting generally require mentoring, and that isn't what it used to be. Also. if someone learns a little they know nontoxic ammunition looms and that can be stifling to some extent. Think California, said to be the future of the nation. I hope not. Then throw in that choke tubes make a gun very versatile as well as more steel shot compatible, and that ammunition is about as hard to get as it has ever been since I suspect the Great Depression and you get a picture that might direct shooters toward modern stuff. Then again I might be completely wrong and the store has just maxed out its budget preparing for the next big gun buy and after it hits they'll be taking consignments again?

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Lloyd3 #627914 03/24/23 08:21 AM
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I'd guess for about a year, the covid frenzy has been waning. I think low end guns are easy to have around, but it may be a sign of the times that a little pocket change is more important to an increasing number of people?

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It's really very simple. Far the majority of gun owners have no use for that stuff because they know that they're going to need something full auto when the 40,000 new IRS agents start kicking in doors. Just common sense.


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Lloyd3 #627921 03/24/23 09:47 AM
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Wonko, you may be onto something...

I've heard it repeated several times lately (and in non-gun circles even), yesterday's treasures will not likely be tomorrow's treasures. I've had some really decent bamboo fly rods and even some nicer reels on consignment locally for almost a year here now and haven't had even a nibble. It's a good thing that most (if not all) of the "toys" I've accumulated over the years were purely for my own entertainment and use. I've been sorely tempted by the "investment" grade argument several times over the years but never finally ponied-up. Not sure how I feel about all of that now.

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I would guess the new owner is selling the old owner's (his dad's) guns to help his mother out.
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Joe's needs to discover the internet, especially if their prices are reasonable. Little competition in that price zone.

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I also fly fish with cane rods-- Pre-fire Leonards, Payne, Gillum, Paul Young, Merrick-Stoner Winstons, and Hardy and Bogdan reels. Not interested in selling any of them-used to receive regular catalogues from Marty Keene- now, just like with shotguns for waterfowling with forged steel components and real walnut stocks (Belgian Brownings and pre-1950 M12's) we have fiberglas and plastic and pot-metal wonders- ditto fly rods NOT hand made from cane- Fly fishing with a fine cane rod is like playing the Moomlight Sonata on a Steinway Baby Grand, using a graphite fly rod is like playing it on a whorehouse piano, a la Scott Joplin. RWTF


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The whorehouse piano market seems to be dominating out here Foxy! The real problem is that the places where one used to go to commune with the waters and try for the fish are now overrun by lots of "new" Colorado residents. Everything has been loved to death effectively, so not much demand for the toys of yesteryear out here now.

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