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Thanks! It was very much my hope that it was earlier and could identify the time frame for Mr Wiswoulds Iron Barrels. It doesn't look like any Laminated Steel I've seen. Oh well-the search continues

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rdd - keep in mind that those barrels could have been laying around in someone's shop for a long time before being used in this gun. Anybody's guess when, where, or from whom Bonehill got them. The USA guns were on the cheap/machine made side for Brit guns. So, these could easily have been some bargain basement barrels. I'd not be surprised if they were of Belgian origin, either. To get any kind of fix on them, we need to seem more similar with something identifiable as to source and/or age.

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It's lot # 1631 on the current Greg Martin site
http://68.167.203.107:8050/FMPro?-db=GMA...86297&-find
Unfortunately, no pic of the brl flats.

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revdocdrew: I hope you can find "The Gun, 1834" which has a little more info. When I have a little spare time, I'm going to continue the search for books as well as Damascus. If possible, give us a recap for time to time, or is in on your blog?

eightbore: great idea. When you run across a female(may be one condition too many) one, let me know in that I would like to have a bear dog incase any ever come off the mountains into the valley. They are good skunk dogs in addition to good bird dogs.

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Raimey: these Greener books are available on-line

The Gun, or a Treatise on the Various Descriptions of Small Fire-Arms 1835
http://books.google.com/books?id=oIEY4qL6_z0C&pg=PA30-IA1&dq=wiswould%27s+iron#PPA1,M1

The Science of Gunnery, as Applied to the Use and Construction of Fire-Arms 1841 Oxford
http://books.google.com/books?id=ThYkeKlemD8C&dq=w+greener+barrel+patents

Gunnery in 1858: Being a Treatise on Rifles, Cannon, and Sporting Arms
http://books.google.com/books?id=A4TPW796iD8C&dq=w+greener+barrel+patents

The Gun and It's Development 1907
http://books.google.com/books?id=3HMCAAAAYAAJ&dq=w+greener+barrel+patents

We're now up to 10 Damascus albums on the PictureTrail (I really need to find a meaningful life ) which are all accessible here http://www.picturetrail.com/revdocdrew

I just e-mailed you a Word document Damascus overview, and would be happy to share that with anyone interested. e-mail me at revdoc2@cox.net

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revdocdrew:

But what about the 1934 one? I'll check my stacked email. Thanks.

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I believe the 1835 on-line book IS the the 1834 The Gun. There is a letter in the preface from Col. Hawker dated Dec. 29, 1834 thanking Greener for the book he received. Reading through the Preface is sounds like this was his first book. The cover page is, however, dated 1835.

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I've read your informative post on the 1935 version & I don't remember the same in recollecting my reading of some chapters of "The Gun, 1934." I try to make it a habit to read the title page. I would like to start from the beginning of the Greener Saga and compare either in reprints or originals. But I will compare in the near feature. As a guess, eightbore or Researcher one referred to the 1934 version.

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Big typo Raimey-that is 18 35. Sorry!

AND may have found an example of what Greener called 'Stub Damascus' (which from the description may have been an early attempt at Laminated Steel), this c. 1860s H&H Cape Gun. Compare to http://books.google.com/books?id=oIEY4qL6_z0C&pg=PA30-IA1&dq=wiswould%27s+iron and http://books.google.com/books?id=oIEY4qL6_z0C&pg=PA18-IA1&dq=wiswould%27s+iron


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No, the error is mine. I meant 1834 & 1835 respectively. Posting with a lack of sleep leads to errors.

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