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I'm having a bit of a problem with this also. I know the Italians made a lot of boxlock guns with false sideplates but this does not appear to be one of them.
Jim Right - no false sideplates here, just true sideplates.  The gun is a boxlock. You aren't the first to be fooled - a local gunsmith had a consignment Roma 6 tagged as a sidelock, and I had to prove it was a boxlock before he'd change the tag! 
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I was almost fooled by sideplated Vouzelaud 315, but during re-cocking the cocking indicators did not turn as they should in true SL gun having them. 
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Where can I find L. Brown's article. I don't have that issue.
There are an awful lot of pins.
So many guns, so little time!
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So, is it being said that there are no Italian flatback sidelocks? Certainly the Brits used a flatback design for many sidelocks. If I see an Italian flatback sidelock I can be sure it is a sideplated boxlock?
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So, is it being said that there are no Italian flatback sidelocks? No, just that V. Bernardelli made some sideplated boxlocks that look remarkably like sidelocks.  But VB also made some nice genuine sidelocks, so you really have to know what you're looking at.
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I know they made many models.
Roma models 3 to 9 - false sidelock
Holland VB to VB Gold - sidelock
There maybe other sidelocks or false side plate models that I am not aware of. If there are, it would be helpful to post some info.
The Holland VB Gold was a special order only custom gun that started around $40,000 and went up from there.
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I wonder what a false sideplate looks like? Why would anyone want to make something that looks like a sideplate but isn't really a sideplate? 
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Another dead giveaway is the large floor plate that gives access to the A&D mechanism,....most A&D boxlocks will have a large floor plate such as this one
Take a look at the 1st and 5th pictures
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The taste of poor quality lingers long after the cheap price is forgotten.........
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I owned a Las Palomas pigeon gun (two barrel set) for a short time. It had genuine side plates, pins and all, a sidelock from all apppearances. Gun was beautifully made, alas very heavy and a friend was delighted to relieve me of it.
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