doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com The history behind Iron Man Phil

Let me clarify - my original comment was not pro, or con, trapping, but rather the glorifying of the act by taking a lot of time and effort to stage and shoot those photos. The final act of stupidity was releasing them on the internet.

Let's see a show of hands - who thinks that photo will garner support and admiration for the trapping (and hunting) world? Now let's see who thinks it will find it's way into the wrong hands and foster hatred and resentment for the trapping world?

Who among us thinks it would do us good to have that photo on the cover of Time magazine?

Well GregSY I'll have to agree, they, the anti-hunters will have a field day with this no doubt, proving the excessive and inhumane nature of hunting and trapping.
All the best

One day last week, I put about 300 miles on my vehicle in Lancaster, York, Adams, and adjoining counties in PA. I didn't see one pheasant, either in a field or dead on the road. It seems like there are way too many foxes in that area and trapping is a legitimate method to control them. Intensive farming is probably as much to blame as predators for the absense of a serious game bird population, but predators are a factor.

Normally I wouldn't care.

But after the bat debacle [welcome to histamosis in the attic], this takes the pileo'horsedung prize.

Whota buncha freakin' effette wusses. Period.

"Carnage?" Get a bleepin life, der buddy. Them foxes ain't vegatarians, regardless of what the PETAphiles preach. They are bloody carnivorous reality. And so are hunters, BTW. And trappers. Most trappers just aren't hanging out at the Clays Range; they're out workin'.

Buncha Ramensuckin' noodlebrains, or what, here?

WE are predators. We KILL things. We take out their guts, and take off their hides and cook and eat them. We USE them. If they are competitive predators, we kill enough of them to enable us to contol that desired resource. We have bloody hands.

You can't and shouldn't soft pedal that. Quit apologizing, quit philosiphizing and rub the PETAsuckers noses right in it. Screw them looony tunes and say so, loudly and often. Rub y'r self with dirt and rancid animal fat, wear an uncured skin and show up AR publicity events claiming that YOUR historic rights as a human being are being VIOLATED by these twit brains.

A good place to start is at HSUS headquarter and outside Wayne Pacelle's Manahatten townhouse, eh?

And no, I don't GAF what your reply is, or if you don't like what I said. Burn up those keyboards all ya want; it's just bleepin electrons. Anywayz, follow y'r placatory lead, and keyboard hunting is all we'll have left by the time the AR-ists and their Bad Gun allies get thru taking y'r well dressed, polit, appeasing selves to the political woodshed.

Good God, now I remember why I quite reading these things. Barf.

Cordially,

John Meeker,

who's gonna take his Chessies and go kill some flying edible things with his his cheap, used Mossberg camo'd Utilimag.

Re: Iron Man Phil
Awesome Photos
Let's consider some rough stats

1202 foxes @ $2250 = $27045
-250mi x 90days = 22500 mi @ 15mpg?
= 1500 gals gas x @2.50? = $3750
2am-9pm = 19 hr days x 90 days = 1710 hrs

$27045
- $3750 gas
= $23295/1710 hrs = $13.62 hourly
not counting truck depreciation and any other expenses
I'm not very good at math, but if I'm in the ballpark I would say this gentleman darn sure earns his money and our gratitude.
Mike B.

JohnM couldn't agree with you more however, who would have thought in that great state of Illinois with its hunting tradition twenty years ago that you would have to have a Firearms Identification Card to own a firearm??? Politics and politicians make the rules that we all live by, including hunting AND they don't like images like this!!!!
All the best

I must admit that, although I read "everything" in here, I didn't read the bat thread because I knew what was coming. Meeker has the proper attitude about this trapping thing, the PETA, the other organizations that perform illegal acts of protest, then stop at McDonalds on the way home to gorge their plump little bodies on dead meat. I suffered through those people at the Hegins pigeon shoots for years, educating myself on their tactics, lies, exaggerations, and, yes, their hamburger and fried chicken appetites. Reply with vigor to their accusations. They are criminals and they are hypocrites and they do not tell the truth about their methods and motives. As Meeker says, "Screw them and post the pictures."

These kinds of threads always seem to polarize our membership. Not sure it's worth all that.

Frankly, I think the guy is doing a fine job of both earning some dough and controlling a population problem of the fox.

But, members here that hunt deer are all too aware of conveying a negative image of the hunting community by things like transporting a deer carcus on the hood or roof of a car/truck and other seemingly (to us) insignificant acts. It's kinda like fartin in church; some people find it offensive, some find it comical, some (at least one) find it refreshing, but there is a group that think that whole section of pews (no pun...well maybe) stinks.

-sensibilities-
Such a strange word to refer to emotions...

I know I try not to scare the ponies and sheep into a bounding stampede but know I should think twice about decrying this posting of a season's harvest. It's magnificent! The bounty and work that led to this picture is astounding.

I'm as guilty as the next person in allowing my sensibilities to be influenced by the masses, but realize now and then that this is to be avoided. I'd rather have a conversation about right and wrong than about how things contribute to the neighbors' proliferative displeasures. I think we can probably manage to step up to the challenge of defending the harvest. If not...

The reason Phil took that picture was it was the largest fox catch ever in the history of trapping by one man. There are trappers in MD who take 1400-1400 but they are 2 men teams. The Leggets.

There are many Eastern trappers me included that will travel out west and trap the big ranches. Your loved for taking the coyote out of bird area's. Many bird hunters trash on the trapper out there also.

Here's another friend that is a trapper in NV check his site out.
http://www.grayfoxtrapping.com