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I make some sloppy roll crimps that can be pretty snug in the chamber. However, I would worry about the wear on the hinge pin if carrying while open. Tried it once and did not like it at all.

I won't carry loaded, closed, and safety off. My dog is a big part of why, and I like a back up to just muzzle control.

You mean holding the lever in the release position? Don't think that is a viable solution. At least on my ejector, the spring is way too stiff to comfortably be held open.

I would enjoy using my Ideals for hunting and I hunt with friends and dogs. Muzzle control is the most important safety technique however falling is always a consideration and that is when a safety is most important. Badger holes and underbrush pose a serious fall risk in South Dakota where I pheasant hunt (wild birds only). There is no time to fool with that safety. I think I will have to use the Ideals for clays.

I have two Ideals, both are 12 gauge. The grades are No 2 and a No 3, the only real difference between them is the lock up at the dolls head. On the 3 something comes up to grab the dolls head in the lock up, it isn't there on the 2. Both guns have straight stocks, sunken ribs and similar engraving.

Lunette style trigger guard or regular style trigger guard?

I do not seem to have much problem with my Ideal safety. Except for the fact it works backwards it is easy for me. Plus it is ambidextrous...Geo

Darne safety on my R-10, on the other hand is a pain, while my V-19 works about like a greener sidesafety( only backwards).

Ideal ambidextrous safety below:

R10?

Best,
Ted

Builder, I did an "armed" walk in the quail woods today before the rain ran me out. I carried my Ithaca SKB 20 with shells in the chambers breach open with my left hand and thumb over shells. Fairly easy to do. It's when you forget you have shells in the chamber and handle the gun with muzzle up that they fall out. One advantage of the Ideal is that the safety is not automatic. If you have shells in chambers, the only movements you make are closure, shouldering, swinging and shooting. Adding another step after closure and mounting, sliding the safety off after it automatically goes "on" can slip past you. It has gummed me up more than once after closing the action on an unexpected shot. Gil

From Le fusil de chasse "Ideal" by Jean-Claude Mournetas:
Brass encased ball for left barrel which has rifling and a barrel reducer insert for the smooth bored right barrel and 8 mm bullet. There's some text I hope to have translated. Gil

Replying to Canvasback...Both of mine are regular triggers. My lower grade #2 gun has a carved ivory bead and the #3 just has a brass bead. Both have nice wood with normal checkering and the retractable sling