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clapper, simulating grouse shooting could have some safety and liability issues, which most likely is why such courses do not exist...
like the old saying says, if it is fun, it is probably dangerous or illegal, or both...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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it is been my observation that competitive shooters dont do well in the grouse woods, where shots are more instinctive... and unpredictable...and it works vice versa...low gun skeet seems to be the best practice for grouse shooting... You sound like just another one of a myriad of non-competitive shooters who make up crap to feel better about their missing. Tell us more details about your observations, ed. SRH
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Stan I was purposefully avoiding that remark.
I dont even think Ed shoots.
Out there doing it best I can.
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Ernie Hausmann of Hausmann's Hidden Hollow Sporting Clays in Friendsville, PA caters to upland hunters, primarily those who shoot ruffed grouse and woodcock. The type of traps and targets they throw in wooded and brushy areas of his courses and called "hunters clays" because of their close simulation of actual bird hunting situations.
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I'm a member of two of the three clubs that host the Wisconsin Iron Man. 400 targets, 4 different courses. The two where I've shot a lot, since they're located in northern Wisconsin, have plenty of trees. No problem simulating grouse shots. Matter of fact, shooters will occasionally encounter a grouse or two as they go around the course. The thing about courses like that is that they can be challenging without a lot of long shots. Think short windows--which is also the name of the game when you're hunting grouse and woodcock.
The Iron Man is interesting in that the higher class shooters don't dominate the entries. Although there's no shortage of them, there were more Hunter Class shooters this year than any other class. Matter of fact, out of the 290 entrants, there were more Hunter Class (95) than there were M, AA, and A combined (89).
It's not easy to set up courses that are sufficiently challenging for serious competitive shooters while not scaring away those who are there just for the fun of it. But the Wisconsin Iron Man clubs are located in a relatively sparsely populated part of the state, yet still succeed in drawing around 300 shooters every year.
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L, that sounds like a lotta fun shooting...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Dam, did make the trip down to hausmann's years ago...it was in september, as i recall and it was the first year of his ne pa sxs shoot...set up a table of sxs guns for sale, shot the course, met some good guys...had fun, made new friends, did not sell any guns, still have the hat...
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keep it simple and keep it safe...
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L, that sounds like a lotta fun shooting... I work it as a volunteer at one of the clubs. Shooters do seem to enjoy it. Personally, a round of 100 is usually enough for me in a day. Especially since one of the two days involves driving the 60 miles that separate the two clubs. The third club has two courses, so that's an easier day.
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What would make a course more interesting is including a few stations with a live quail in a pigeon trap.
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nah...killin aint my thang no mo...
an killin jes fur fun...well dats jus wasteful an crual...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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