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I should have said to measure the protrusion with the forend on, and with it off.


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There is also an angled plate set in the forearm iron, that actuates the tips of the cocking rods when the assembled gun is broken open to re-cock the tumblers. that bears a closer exam, as it can be installed either position, and locks to the iron with a threaded machine screws- the head of which must be flush with the counterbored threaded locating hole.

If this OO has the bushed firing pins, as does my 1905 12 OO grade "parts gun", it most likely does not have the small bronze set screws, those are more often found on 2(E) and higher graded pre- 1913 Smiths.

If you cannot remove the bushing(s) to check the firing pins for dims. (against those shown in the brophy book on mechanics of Smith guns)-- you are S.O.L.-- and if the firing pin(s) are broken and encapsulated in the bushings, you are s.o.l. big time- sorry, one of the hazards of Smith ownership-- RWTF


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Correcto- Dennis. I have recently looked at two post-1913 12 bore Smiths with the light firing pin striking issue- as verified with A-Zoom spring loaded plastic snap caps with the masking tape over the primer pocket test- In one case, the owner admitted to several times trying to re-assemble the ejector forearm onto the gun with the hammers down- the "Achilles heel" of Elsies- in the other case, as another "Smithsonian" responded previously to your comment, the lock plates were screwed in waaay too snugly, this was a FWE frame, so the owner had 3 lock plate machine screws to over-tighten-- It is also a HOT equipped Smith, so there are inherent problems with proper HOT function when that FUBAR is evident on the gun being examined. RWTF


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Big Country figured it out. The issue was with the cocking hook, and it retarding the movement of the hammer.

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Can you i.d. the page(s) in the Brophy book that show the cocking hook(s) on L.C. Smith Hammerless guns- Cocking rods, with the mounted cocking cams, fitted onto the end of each of 2 cocking rods- and as Dennis pointed out, they must be indexed correctly onto the milled ends-- but "hooks"- that escapes me- RWTF


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Cams then.

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Lifters are the correct term.


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That is true--RWTF


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