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2-piper, There's still some common ground; we both like double guns.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Ted, You're pinpointing an economic turn-around is nothing short of miraculous. No economist could manage such a feat. Your crystal ball is simply amazing. Think what you could accomplish as an investor or financial adviser.


Got any money in the stock market Bill? Or, do you just let the bankrupt teachers pension worry about that?

Care to give us a blow by blow of the years and months leading up to Donald J. Trump under BHO, versus what has happened in the last two years?

I thought not.

Lets talk about a SINGLE contrasting point under either. How about numbers on welfare? No, Billy? How about, black unemployment? You dont want to talk about that one either? How about numbers insured by private health insurance? Boy, probably not, just looking at the numbers of people employed since Trump took office.

By any measure a lefty can dream up, the only way they can claim things are worse for the man on the street is to lie their collective asses off about it. Which, every single one of them did, during the debates.

And, as you persist in doing, now.

Get used to the good times, Bill. You are going to have at least 6 more years of them. No matter how much you hate it.

Still waiting for your brilliant rationalization of the 20,000 plus who died waiting on Obama care, by the way. Spit it out any time now, OK?





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Ted, actually I have money in the stock market, and it's doing very well. Obama inherited a bailout that was seriously flawed. He saved the wall street assholes who should have been jailed, but he saved the auto industry too. Our current economy benefits me, but I have no faith it is sustainable. Wages are up marginally but have a long way to go to make up for the stagnation working people have endured. Our system is rigged against them. Finally, Obama did not cause the recession. Republicans caused the recession.


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2-piper, Nothing has divided the country as much as slavery, and Lincoln took the tragic but ultimately right position that the union should survive and slavery should not. Donald Trump takes second as a divisive force in American society.Compared to slavery he is a paltry figure, but he has passionate followers and a talent for creating the illusion that they are valued and will be rewarded. Hitler had the same gift-- build a legacy on resentment and humiliation, blame people of another color or religion. Hispanic immigrants are Trump's Jews. He can't incinerate them, but he can lock them up, separate them from their children, and blame them for our drug problems and violent crime. He can also hire them to staff his hotels and casinos. Who says America is not the country where anyone could rise to be President?


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so, is seems that reducing the cost of gubment and increasing gubmint revenues by taxing an expanding profit driven revenue base are not popular concepts here...

these are among president trump's future long range domestic policy goals...

i was one of the first users of this forum to declare support for candidate trump...am i now all alone here in supporting re election of the president?

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ed, I hope so.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
....Donald Trump takes second as a divisive force in American society.Compared to slavery he is a paltry figure, but he has passionate followers and a talent for creating the illusion that they are valued and will be rewarded. Hitler had the same gift-- build a legacy on resentment and humiliation, blame people of another color or religion. Hispanic immigrants are Trump's Jews. He can't incinerate them, but he can lock them up, separate them from their children, and blame them for our drug problems and violent crime. He can also hire them to staff his hotels and casinos....

You're on board with the identity politics play book, but you're not very good at it. It's almost as if you're following biden's lead when he reads off a speech, that was plagiarized.

What are the rules when someone gets a talking point email? Do you have to rattle it off word for word or are the rules flexible enough for a little freelancing? What feels better, to be forced to use talking points or entitled to use talking points?

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Not so fast, Willy:

https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2012/sep/06/did-obama-save-us-automobile-industry/

Seems a lot of the credit for saving the auto industry as you call it, goes straight to George Bush. Notice Ford motor company didnt take a penny. While the article claims GM was broke, it fails to note the company moved most of its cash offshore about the time it figured out the hope and change idiot was going to be elected.
Multi national corporations arent stupid, Bill. Hope and change always translates to tax and spend. Or, give billions to an outfit like Solyndra-want to talk about that one, Bill?
Wages are up by a level Obama and Clinton could only have dreamed of, Bill. The numbers of people who have gone from drawing welfare or unemployment, to making a wage in an environment where jobs are plentiful, are staggering.
Hey, the biggest, fattest lie any politician ever told me in my life was if I liked my doctor, I could keep my doctor, and a whole bunch of other bullshit that went along with it. I hold your community organizer directly responsible for the loss of life for 20,000 souls who waited for his promise of government handout health insurance, and I hold him directly responsible for the murder of Customs officer Brian Terry, and untold thousands of Mexican nationals, when the weapons that he and his hair brained AG allowed to walk across the border ended up in the hands of Mexican cartels.
Remind me again, billy, who has Trump murdered?

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Ted, The Company that got saved is Chrysler.Where does your 20000 figure come from? What does it mean to wait for health insurance? Did they hold their breath? M illions of Americans got health insurance under Obama care who never had it before. Is it perfect? Hell No. Could it have been a great deal better with the slightest effort from republicans? Hell Yes. Do they have an alternative? Hell No. Craig, your writing is as sorry as ever. It your thinking weren't so screwed up. you'd find it easier to say what you mean. As it is , you seem to have no clue what you intend. Stop listening to Rush and get some information.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Obama inherited a bailout that was seriously flawed. He saved the wall street assholes who should have been jailed, but he saved the auto industry too. Our current economy benefits me, but I have no faith it is sustainable. Wages are up marginally but have a long way to go to make up for the stagnation working people have endured. Our system is rigged against them. Finally, Obama did not cause the recession. Republicans caused the recession.


Ted's observation that Billy is lying his ass off is 100% accurate. But telling Liberal Democrat lies nothing new from Billy. He's been caught in a bunch of them, and pretends he doesn't see it when he gets called out on them. I wonder who he thinks he's fooling... except other brain dead Libtards like nca225.

Obama inherited a Recovery Plan from George Bush that brought us out of a severe recession which was destined to happen when Bill Clinton and the Democrats forced lenders to provide mortgages to people who could never repay them.

Thus began the Subprime Mortgage crisis. People who had been barely able to keep up those mortgage payments were doomed when hundreds of thousands of jobs were lost due to insane Trade Deals like the NAFTA Agreement signed into law by... Bill Clinton.

Obama did not cause the recession, but anti-gun certainly Democrats did. Obama supported the Liberal Left policies that caused the Great Recession. Obama policies as the first gay president gave us a very weak recovery, and his ObamaCare actually raised the cost of Health Care and forced employers to freeze hiring and to reduce employment at a time when unemployment was very high. He told us that chronic high unemployment was going to be the new normal. His recovery was one of the weakest on record. To give Obama any credit for the big jump in the stock markets, employment numbers, and wage growth that happened as soon a Donald Trump was elected is the height of deception and dishonesty.

The current economy benefits rocky brain bill, yet he wishes to go back to high taxes and the onerous anti-Corporate regulations that led to closed factories, job losses, and depressed wages. He also wants unfettered Illegal Immigration, which also depresses wages for the poor and middle class.

Most of the people who got Health Insurance were forced to buy costly and substandard insurance with very high deductibles, under penalty of law. The only people who "GOT" Health Insurance from ObamaCare were those already collecting Welfare who were subsidized at the expense of other taxpayers. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the ObamaCare Individual Mandate was a tax... yet Obama had promised to not raise taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 per year... another lie. And Billy won't talk about those double digit annual cost increases after Obama promised that costs would come down.

But here on a firearms forum, this is the part which proves that Liberalism is a mental disorder:

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2-piper, There's still some common ground; we both like double guns.


This is simply nuts. A guy who claims to like guns and who starts a thread about planting walnut trees to provide wood for gun stocks in the future actually supports and votes for extreme anti-gun Democrats who promise to keep pushing for restrictions on the 2nd Amendment... anti-gun Democrats like Barbara Boxer who actually sometimes admit they would like to ban them all. They always start out claiming that they only want "Saturday Night Specials" or "Assault Weapons" that are designed only for killing people. Or all handguns, which they say are useless for hunting or home defense. But when you look at the huge piles of confiscated and banned firearms from other countries whose anti-gun politicians said the same thing... you see plenty of common hunting rifles and shotguns. These actual advertisements from Australia aren't showing a semi-auto large cap magazine assault style rifle:







A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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