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xausa,
Almost. What I was trying to describe would have a mandrel in the tube , to be removed after the forging and before the boring/reaming, rifling. I can see that it would take some "rohrmachergeheimnis"(?) to prevent welding the mandrel in.
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Could “Drahtläufe” perhaps refer to acid-etched damascus barrels? They certainly have the look and feel of wire.
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  I don't think so. Drahtläufe(canon filé) - French to German term conversion. Cheers, Raimey rse
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Mike: the chemise/sleeve was softer metal that fit between the ribband and the mandrel, and was bored out after the tube was fabricated 
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OK, that makes a lot more sense than what I was visualizing. To me, a "Hülse" refers to a tube or something similarly hollowed out, like a cartridge case.
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Drew,
Yes, but that is a shotgun barrel. I was talking about a rifle barrel that would be rifled after the welding.
xausa,
Your understanding is what would be needed for a rifle barrel.
Mike
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>>Futterrohr<<, >>Hülse<, & the French term >>chemise<< Cheers, Raimey rse
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Yes I wish that all the descriptive terms were included in the early descriptions.
Ferlacher Rosendamastläufen
Bernard Damastläufen
Ferlacher Halbrosenläufen
gedrehten Rubandamastläufen
Leclerc Damastläufen
„Vorderlader“ mit halbgedrehten Rubandnmastläufen und mit halbgedrehten Eisenläufen
Cheers,
Raimey
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Many thanks to Jani & Wolfgang on the following. General consensus is that >>Ferlacher Halbrosenläufen und mit gedrehten Rubandamastläufen<< is in fact a
Buchsflinte / Biksarica(Priveznjena Polrisanica - puška polrisanica?) / Combo with a steel rifled tube & a pattern welded tube. Anyone so versed in >>Waidmannssprache<< that they might correct us & put us on the straight & narrow or point us in the proper direction?
Cheers,
Raimey
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A few more barrel choices on a Büschflinte fabrik by Sauer & Sohn, a steel rifle & pattern welded scattergun:
Centralfeuer-Büchsflinte
Schrotlauf aus Banddamast
Schrotlauf aus feinem Garibaldi-Damast
Schrotlauf aus feinstem Boston-Damast
Dieselbe Sorte mit Doppelflinten Wechselrohren
„Garibaldi-Damast" escapes me for now?
Cheers,
Raimey
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