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Now that's interesting & I've always wanted to load 16-65mm in bulk w/ my own choice of shot.
Regarding the calibre; as Ford says chamber cast, chamber cast w/ CerroSafe.....
Cheers,
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Here's a pic of the converted LEE. [img:center][URL=http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Browndaug/media/005_zpsf4e1c36b.jpg.html]  [[/img]
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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A chamber cast is definitely the way to go. If it is the 8/57R/.360 it will be a bottleneck case but a smaller diameter than the 8x57IR. Both Brass & Dies are I believe available for it. The brass could also be made from shortened 9.3x72R cases. Power is I believe similar to the old .32-40 Ballard/Win in the smokeless loads. It should be suitable for taking a Whitetail with a well-placed shot. Even the black powder loading of the .32-40 took a pile of them in the past.
Should be a Fun Gun.
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  I see a stamp of >>FA<< closer to the forend hanger, possibly that of one of the Boys Adamy. But there is a stamp above the >>7,7mm<< stamp that I can't discern. Cheers, Raimey rse
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.....Power is I believe similar to the old .32-40 Ballard/Win in the smokeless loads. It should be suitable for taking a Whitetail with a well-placed shot. Even the black powder loading of the .32-40 took a pile of them in the past...... My Dad had an Uncle that was a logger/woodsman & he actually shot deer in the ear w/ a 0.22" and stacked them up like cord-wood. Cheers, Raimey rse
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I don't want to make Raimey have a heart attack, but you don't need a chamber cast when there are two choices of chambering. A hand loader usually has a dial or electronic caliper, and it can be used. Measure the chamber diameter just ahead of the rim recess. If it is 8x57R/360, it will measure around .427"; and if 8x57IR,around .465". There is enough difference to be pretty clear. I vote for 8x57IR due to the 8-88 mark. If you fire a cartridge in the drilling and don't size the case, what ever bullet diameter that will easily fit into the case can be used in loading for it. For sure you can use .318", it is pretty likely use .321" and possible for .323". You can easily make .318" bullets from .321" or .323" or in between. If you don't have a caliper, you can tell the 8x57IR from 8x57R/360 by comparing the chamber to a 30-30 case and 30-06 case.
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If it's a choice between 8x57JR and 8x57R-360, it looks to me like the rims are significantly different sizes. I figure I'll just measure the rim recess, order my brass based on that, and then fire one with a light fire-forming load and no bullet (assuming I have a shell holder the right size to prime it), to make sure the chamber is really what we think it is. I figure it will be, but just in case........ Edit: Yeah, what Der Ami said! I should read all the posts before replying.......... Thanks for the advice on the load-all!  Now for the worst part: Waiting on the gun to arrive! Haha.
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But there is a stamp above the >>7,7mm<< stamp that I can't discern. If you're curious about the markings from a scholarly perspective, I can post some high rez photos here once the gun arrives.
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Sure, in anything scholarly, I always have interest.
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..... If you don't have a caliper, you can tell the 8x57IR from 8x57R/360 by comparing the chamber to a 30-30 case and 30-06 case. Sage advice so always carry a 30-30 case(possibly re-formed without the shoulder) & a 30-06 case and you will always know. Ford & I have a sidebar conversation ongoing on the pitfalls of a wax cast & a CerroSafe cast. And I have been in the pits as of late. Cheers, Raimey rse
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