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Is he a maker or retailer? thanks Robert
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R.Marshall, This is an often seen type rifle made in Zella Mehlis and sold to many dealers in finished condition and gunsmiths for finishing in their own style. Edgar Hubner's address is Suhl and is shown as a Buechsenmachermeister, so it is highly possible that he finished it. If he did finish it, it would have likely been proofed is Suhl. If you post photos of all the markings, including proof marks( found under the barrel) additional information can be provided. Mike
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Thanks Mike I will work on that tonite and report back in the morning..
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Looks very similar as 8,15X46 1/2mm R which I am currently makin'.
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It looks too long for 8.15x46R, maybe rechambered, post war, to 32-40, or maybe 8.15x52R. Need to see proof marks. Mike
Last edited by Der Ami; 06/06/19 05:43 PM.
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It is marked 46 1/2 but these cases are 52mm long
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Could be bored out to 32-40 but I believe the cases would be 54mm, unless it is some variant. The guess of X52R may just be correct.
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The bottom of the case next to rim is 10.58mm. Neck at bullet is 8.70mm. Bullet looks to be 8.16mm.
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Original length 32-40 cases should be 2.125-.130", which is a little longer than 52mm. A chamber cast would be necessary to put a name on the cartridge. Since there are sample cases and bullets, it can be used with out it. It shouldn't be necessary to rebore it for 32-40, especially for lead bullets, the 8.15x46R chamber should clean up with a 32-40 reamer. I mentioned original length cases above, current 32-40 ammo is loaded in 30-30( 2.080") length cases. If it turns out to be 8.15x52R, I would guess it was rechambered in Germany; if 32-40, then the USA. There are possible differences in rim thickness, but most people think rim thickness should be adjusted from the front, so the still existing 30-30 headstamp is not a clue. Mike
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