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The New Baker went through several changes during it's production. Top: An early top bolted gun. Middle: A Model 1896. Below: A Model 1897.


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Alphabet Guns. Top to Bottom: Models A, B, & C.



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Baker Boxlocks. Top to Bottom: Two variants of the Model C and a Baker Standard, circa 1915.



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Top to Bottom: A late production Model A, Model R and an early Batavia Leader.



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VERY Nice
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Top to Bottom:. A BG&F Co Batavia Leader. A Folsom era Batavia Leader. A BG&F Co. Black Beauty.



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Thanks, John. That Black Beauty has a certain charm.

The Folsom Batavia Leader cyanide case hardening ................ original?

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Originally Posted By: Stan
Thanks, John. That Black Beauty has a certain charm.

The Folsom Batavia Leader cyanide case hardening ................ original?

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Stan, As far as I can detect the colors are case and original. The Black Beauty is a light weight 26" gun. Very quick swinging. Maybe Daryl will come along and add specifics.

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John, congrat's, that is a very nice display. Thanks for your efforts. The Black Beauty is a fine example of that Grade, especially since , at the time, it was Baker's low price leader at around $20. It still had a wonderful finish as you can see. I think they called a Black Oxide finish. I believe Doug Tate wrote an article in Shooting Sportsman about the black finish guns that were more popular during that period. The Tobin black finish was called Pyro Oxide if my memory serves me correctly.

Your group of New Bakers is a good teaching lesson. Do you have examples of the earliest New Bakers from about 1887 to 1991 ? Different mechanisms, of course.

Stan, your observation of the Folsom Leader's case colors being "different" is proper. When Folsom took over the gun making portion of Baker Gun and Forging in 1919, they offered the Leader with very prominent case colors differing from the Baker Gun and Forging charcoal colors. I do not know if the new colors were cyanide or some other process, but they were incredibly bright and durable colors. Many worn Folsom Leaders still have much of that original case color. The Folsom higher grades had the Black Oxide finish, up to and including the De Luxe which was the highest grade.

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Wonderful collection of very high condition guns John, and thank you.

A c. 1915 Baker boxlock with a straight receiver, late Baker ejector system & late safety button




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