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Greener safety on the left & selector atop. Blitz Action Sempert & Kreighoff all in-house Krieghoff offering. I do wonder if Kriehoff was the tube source for Roechling Elektro tubes. Then who might have been rolling the rough tubes?
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I wonder if the "S HS" stamps denotes it might be 0.323"?? I would slug the bore......
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If it is actually a 12ga it would be less common than having 16ga barrels. I don't believe that the barrel selector on that model cocks the rifle barrel, it only selects the barrel, unless there is a larger knob behind the selector shown.
Caliber is most likely 8x57R shooting .318 bullets. Most of the .323 diameter 8x57R are in post war drillings.
It looks like the date might be 11/35 (Nov. 1935). Look for a 12, 12/70, 12/65, 16, 16/65 or 16/70 I don't know the dates when they started designating chamber length. If there is only a 12 o 16 in a circle or diamond they are 65mm (2 1/2") chambers. It should be on the barrel flats which aren't shown.
I admit I'm not an authority on drillings but a love to hunt with them and have three and am seriously looking at number four if I can get the gun fund back up where it is needed.
Welcome to the addictive world of drillings.
After the first shot the rest are just noise.
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Who is the guy's name on the right barrel?
>>Robert Hübner was a native of Zella-Mehlis(probably Mehlis) but hung out his gunmaking shingle in Darmstadt, possibly circa WWI. He was a master gunsmith.<< The left barrel says 'Sempert Krieghoff Suhl' for the bad pics. >>Sempert & Krieghoff was the original concern founded by Heinrich's father.<< Cheers, Raimey rse
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Tomorrow I will go back with my Skeet's bore gauge to measure bore diameter. I will verify chamber length as well. But my Manson wall thickness gauge is permanently mounted on the wall. Any other pics that might help anyone?
Thank you all so much for your help. This is why I read this bbs.
redoftx.
Typed 4/19 - 9:45amCST : The drilling shotgun bores are 16, not 12. He had it listed as 12. Right bore - 2 9/16 chamber; .680 bore; 2" of choke taper and .643 at muzzle. Left bore - 2 9/16 chamber; .682 bore; 2" of choke taper and .645 at muzzle. BBL length - 23 1/2" or 60cm It is engraved Krieghoff Trumpf (if I spelled it correctly) under the receiver ahead of trigger guard.
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RedofTx, If you can swing it, go back and buy it. You will enjoy it. Ammo ( 8x57IR) is available and it is easy to load for. Mike
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Well, I swung, and connected, but don't know what I hit. I feel like it was an okay deal. What's the saying, if a buyer and seller agree, then both are happy? or something like that.
I got the drilling, the Kahles scope, a 22Mag insert made by Krieghoff to go into the right bore, scope carrying case when not in use, and 20 rifle rounds of 8x57JRS(assuming that is the right caliber. $3K.
Headed off to work right now but tomorrow I will post pics of the muzzle, and better pics of the barrel flats to make sure of the rifle caliber before I fire the rifle barrel.
thanks.
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RedofTex, The proof marks show the correct caliber is 8x57IR( AKA JR).This ammo is available. In spite of this, there is an outside chance you can also use 8x57IRS (JRS). If you fire an 8x57IR cartridge and a .323" bullet will fit easily into the fired but unsized case, then you can use 8x57IRS (JRS). If it will not fit, then you should only use 8x57IR. If you don't want to do the test, you can always safely use 8x57IR.( as a caution, in performing the test, use a bare bullet, and check with the shank. the nose will not be .323") Both cartridges are great and you are not disadvantaged with either. I have Kahles scopes and you are sure to be satisfied with yours. The insert barrel( Einstecklauf) makes the drilling a universal gun, I have used them to shoot fox, bobcat, hare, racoon, and squirrel. All in all, you have a great rig. Mike
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