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This is about the 6th or 7th Church in France that has been set afire and the second incident at Notre Dame. The first was stopped by the police when a car full of Muslim extremist had gas cylinders they were planning to set off. We will have to wait for the verdict, but I am not very optimistic about the renovation story.

I'm thinking along the same lines as you guys. I don't think this was just another accident. I hope I am wrong.

I agree- what renovation in a stone and mortar building would require a contractor to employ a cutting torch? The Muslims are becoming experts at destroying buildings, as we found out on 9-11 in NYC-- Just as the Japannese became experts at shallow water torpedeos vis a vis Pearl Harbor 1941. Even if the bearing outer walls remain somewhat intact (unlike the Twin Towers) future usage of the Cathedral may well be unsafe-- And as the Cathedral is the most often visited site by tourists in Paris, even outnumbering the Louve, the terrorists are experts at "blending into the mileu__ and not raising suspicion. My money says- terrorist attack- well planned as well.

French wife is furious and convinced that at Easter Time, with usually only the most competent of French workers allowed to work on "Patrimony" building, something nefarious happened. Once it started though, with a huge building full of air...no fire doors possible in an interior 13 stories tall, oxygen would quickly create a mini firestorm. Macron is such a product of the Grands Ecole and the French State is so centralized, she's convinced that even if it were a terrorist attack, there will be an effort to cover it up.

No fire investigator will be able to discover the cause through forensics...but there should have been workers at the site when the fire started. Somebody saw something.

Very suspicious. A number of French churches have been vandalized or set on fire in the past year. I don't expect the truth from the authorities.

It is a terrible tragedy.

My wife says there was some large amounts of lead in the building for some reason (not just for stain-glass windows) and the renovations were dealing with it. So I suppose some heat source could have been needed to cut or shape it. Hard to say. I'll wait until there has been a thorough investigation before I start accusing anyone of anything. I'm strange that way.

The fire is reported to have started some time after 6:00 PM local time. I would doubt if there were any construction/renovation type workers around at all, unless they were off the clock.

I haven�t seen a single accusation, only suspicions, that will be investigated, posted here. I find it strange that someone would expect an unbiased investigation to come out of a tragedy of this magnitude.

Lead was used in the roofing of the structure, by the way. No doubt it was once a great material for that task, likely pass� for that today, for a variety of reasons.

Best,
Ted

viva la france...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM-E2H1ChJM

Though it would be easy to blame them it is probably not an act of terrorism by Muslims. They usually take credit for their "work" very quickly. Evidently no group has claimed "credit" for this loss ....... yet.

SRH