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That's a cool find. Whether or not it's shootable should be evaluated by a good barrel man familiar with muzzleloaders. Definitely worth preserving and I'm sure it served it's past owner well.
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If the Scott was safe to use and reasonable price, I'd buy it for the pleasure of the experience: thought of the provenance is enough for me, taking a bird on a wild day a pleasurable premium. Then I'd send it off to my Seal Cove friend to make it right, and pass it along to another of the same spirit. Money's not everything!
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Does that read >>Patent Solid Steel Through Lump<<?
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Look here for possible dating of proof http://www.shotguns.se/html/b-ham_marks_in_context.htmlPerhaps 1875-87 Mike London gun proofed in B'ham?
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My gunning hero- the late Nash Buckingham, mentioned Bonehill shotguns in his writings about his growing-up years. Nice old double indeed.. RWTF
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I don't recall the dates now but at one point Winchester Repeating Arms Co imported guns made by Bonehill. Not sure if they were sold under the Bonehill Name or the Winchester name.
I could be wrong, but was of the opinion Bonehill was a Birmingham maker. Some B'ham makers maintained a London address for the "Prestige".
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What Miller said. The first two orders of guns Winchester imported were made by C.G. Bonehill, and were in five grades from Match Gun down to D-quality. In 1882 a third order was acquired from Richard Redman. Winchester also imported guns from W.C. McAntree & Co. and W & C Scott & Sons. 
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Did a search & found this on Bonehill. I cannot guarantee its accuracy but appears the poster has done a good deal of research on this maker. I was almost certain his premises were in fact located in Birmingham. Name C G Bonehill
Other Names C G Bonehill Ltd
Address 1 33 Charlotte Street
Address 2 Belmont Firearms Works, Belmont Row
City/Town Birmingham
Country United Kingdom
Trade Gun & Rifle Maker
Other Address Morville Street; Price Street?
Dates 1872-1965
Notes
Christopher George Bonehill was born in 1831, son of a manufacturing ironmonger. He was apprenticed from about 1844 to 1851 to a Mr Aston (possibly William Aston & Co).
He established his own firm in 1851, but it was only in 1872 that he was recorded at 33 Charlotte Street with a factory in Morville Street.
In 1873 he moved the whole business to the Belmont Firearms Works, Belmont Row. It was probably about this time that the firm were appointed contractors to Her Majesty's War Department.
C G Bonehill was a Guardian of The Birmingham Proof House.
In 1880 he patented a shotgun action and stocks (No.1952).
In 1884 he registered four patents, No. 8469 covered barrels, No. 8471 covered a shotgun, and No.12586 taken out jointly with A J Simpson covered a shotgun.
In 1877 patent No. 3718 covered a shotgun action and in 1878 patent No. 2323 also covered a shotgun action.
In 1888 No.7823 covered double barrel breech actions and safety catches.
At about this time Thomas Naughton worked for the firm, he left in 1887 to join Holloway & Co as manager.
In 1895, patent No.12578 with A Tunstall covered a Martini action with a detachable barrel. There may have been another patent for a .22 conversion.
Virtually nothing is known about the firm from about 1900 to 1965 when they closed. Presumably, they contributed to the war effort 1914-1918, and presumably they suffered a lack of business in the period 1920-1935. From 1939 to 1965 they would have seen a gradual decline in business.
The firm were volume suppliers of sporting guns and rifles for export. They produced ball & shot guns and combination guns, and they made the Britannia air rifle. They were pioneers in the mechanisation of gun manufacture, making the "Belmont Interchangeable" shotguns.
From about 1900, C G Bonehill were the main suppliers of rifles to the "Society of Miniature Rifle Clubs". The Society was founded to encourage rifle shooting amongst working class men, and it was largely responsible for establishing smallbore rifle shooting as a sport in England. For this purpose, old .303 Martini-Enfield rifles were re-barrelled to .22 rimfire and sold at very reasonable prices.
Query ?? whether they had premises in Price Street?
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Wasn't Bonehill the first to offer (or maybe popularize )"interchangeable" parts for their guns, minimizing handfitting? Gil
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