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Two massacres: US bump stocks illegal next week; New Zealand assault rifles gone within a week.
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Team M and the Columbus Ohio Blue Jackets are battling for the last wild card playoff spot. Im conflicted as to what Id like to see. Team M miss the playoffs or be smashed in the first round by the next Stanley Cup Champions the Steve Yzerman built and Steve Stamkos lead Tampa Bay Lightning. ps: King, please put an OT in front of these types of threads. ____________________________ It always starts innocently enough. https://youtu.be/IVFHyZSXKMw
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Not partisan, lonesome. Similar reactions from surpassingly different cultures. Gun grabs, and not a peep here. Slippery slope lost its voice?
The board has been as much a barometer for me of what our neighbours are thinking as a source of double gun information. What goes?
From my talks and correspondence with gun shop owners and organizations, I'm getting the feeling they're giving up trying to stop it.
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Not double gun neither. __________________________ Just a matter of time... https://youtu.be/LJvzqt05gwE
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Werent you here last week? The greatness of the NZ gun culture was already discussed, eh?
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Socialism is almost the worst.
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Im trying to stop the provocateur, buzz. It may take a cross check to the teeth to do it though. _______________________ Wheres tough guy dal when you need him?
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New Zealand was to be expected. All the Brit and Commonwealth countries will probably disarm their citizenry eventually. They're too far gone to help themselves.
The Trump bump-stock ban is much to do about nothing, and will serve best to convince all conservatives that no concession to the progressive fanatics will shut them up or satisfy them. I think the NRA blinked when it shouldn't have...Geo
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A post of gun rights, seizure, 2nd amendment is now provocative? Why and when did that happen, lonesome?
For all that, it is a blessing. A signal triumph of the spirit and Dave's skilful governance and mentoring.
I remarked last week there's been a change to moderation, and another member noted 40 posts in a row without same-old.
There is a god. Blessings all. Congratulations.
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A post of gun rights, seizure, 2nd amendment is now provocative? Why and when did that happen... Just wait for it. __________________________ Just for you. https://youtu.be/HIVkeXxmLrc
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Nah, there are always grievers, for sure. None could have missed the moderation, even gladiators making up, temporizing of opinions. It's wonderful. I'll send Dave my yearly donation.
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I just sent $100USD to Dave anyway for improved governance. He had a lot to do with it. A clip behind the ear of miscreants is always needed.
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I find it interesting that many find this act something to celebrate. what happened was that in effect the PM of NZ is a dictator and by decree confiscated property and rights without any protests from the left. noting to celebrate there.
I don't care if their parliament voted, she did it by decree and the parliament flunkies just went along. like good little quislings.
I wonder how much the left would howl if the PM of NZ confiscated all cell phones and computers because people were watching porn?
Rights are disposable when some feel they are unpopular and have no qualms about taking them away. only when their rights (abortion, select free speech, deviant behavior, etc) are threatened do they feel that the government is too powerful.
don't think so? look how the leftist states react when Trump wants to deny federal funding because they wont enforce US law (immigration law and won't cooperate with federal authorities) .
but when certain counties now say they will be 2nd Amendment sanctuary counties, the left is up in arms saying the sheriffs should resign if they wont enforce laws.
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Just. Wait. For. It.
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I don't celebrate anything other than a much more moderate forum, Brian. I asked if the US and NZ anti-gun legislation were a trend: two countries of two distinct cultures acting similarly on national policy as consequence of massacres. I noted little response on the forum, one way or the other, and offered my impression of Canadian gun and gun-shop owners and their organizations as giving up gun rights as a lost cause. If that were so, Canada with its own massacres, US and NZ are in the same boat. A trend?
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I don't celebrate anything other than a much more moderate forum...
I noted little response on the forum...
... and offered my impression of Canadian gun and gun-shop owners and their organizations as giving up gun rights as a lost cause. Connect the dots, Mr Provocateur. _______________________________ $100 US? Dang do I feel cheap.
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No dots to connect, just a straight shot, mano a mano, like the Kid in a shootout last night.
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No dots to connect, just a straight shot, mano a mano, like the Kid in a shootout last night. Maybe you two can get together and watch the finals on his big screen. He has a dang nice crib in Cole Harbor (sic). _________________________ Tell him I said Have fun golfing.
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The NZ PM is going to pay for all the "AK15"s( the "news" said that is the gun he used) and large capacity "bullet clips" the citizens turn in to the government. I am waiting with bated breath to see how much she will pay for each one. Since they are registered, the Government knows where they are. What is scrap iron selling for now?
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$3 a hundred. I called the other day. I've got a mountain of old disc blades, plow points and junked center pivot gearboxes I need to get shed of.
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A post of gun rights, seizure, 2nd amendment is now provocative? Why and when did that happen, lonesome?
For all that, it is a blessing. A signal triumph of the spirit and Dave's skilful governance and mentoring.
I remarked last week there's been a change to moderation, and another member noted 40 posts in a row without same-old.
There is a god. Blessings all. Congratulations. King, you know damn well that threads on Gun Rights and the 2nd Amendment have always been provocative to some here... especially the closet Liberals and Fudd's who wish to bury the fact that the vast majority of assaults on Gun Rights have come directly from the Liberal left. Why just look at Fox's recent locked Cabelas Thread where SKB used propaganda and statistics from the anti-gun New York Time and a known anti-gunner in his repeated attempt to tar me as a liar concerning the number of already registered guns in New Zealand. Here is the link SKB provided as proof that I was a 100% liar in his eyes: https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/new-zealand-re-examining-its-gun-laws-after-mosque-shooting/Just check the anti-gun credentials of the guy his statistics came from, Philip Alpers, and his organization GunPolicy.org Here's something to show the kind of anti-gun crap SKB used to tar me as a liar: https://ssaa.org.au/news-resources/know-...i-gun-reportingOf course King, you yourself have used statistics and propaganda from anti-gun organizations to undermine our 2nd Amendment, so I'm sure you think it's fine. You ask if the recent ban on Bump Stocks or ban on assault style rifles in NZ is a Trend. Again you demonstrate your deception and your long-standing Trolling. There is a continual Trend by the Liberal Left to use every shooting as a vehicle to seek more gun control laws and more restrictions. You know that it is false to say there has not been a peep here concerning Bump Stocks. And this statement appears to be simply more of your LULLING, and a continued wish that the resolve of NRA members is waning. I agree with the observation by Geo Newbern that the all latest concessions to the progressive Left will do is make them thirsty to come back for more gun control and more bans. By the way King... it looks as if this thread is simply more proof of the dishonesty you exhibited when you said this: Whatever Dave does with this dissolving phantasmagoria, my hope is that there's a cleanup of all the political partisanship and slogans, jingoism, imputing of motives and citizenship, and it's packed it off to another place on the board. I'm here to learn about doubles. I don't give a tinker's dam about someone's father or politician unless it relates to gun provenance or some activity in the shooting sports.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Recent trend Ive noted is toward Constitutional carry, several more states on board.
We were promised that the gun control act of 1968 would reduce gun crime dramatically. That was a lie. All gun control schemes are a lie.
The Australian murderer in NZ wrote a manifesto, that stated his primary goal by murdering Muslims was to increase gun control in the US. He believed it would lead to a race war, that would split the US. He was clearly insane, but, understood mass media and its liberal puppet masters very cunningly.
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Dont know how things are funded in Canada or NZ but, gun control would be potentially devastating for conservation in the USA. The non-sporting gun culture provides major economic support for wildlife restoration through excise taxes on guns and ammo. A lot of target shooters who never step into the woods are very much supporting hunting and fishing.
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King, give it up, no one wants another thread on gun control.
No one wants to hear your opinion on how we in the US should govern ourselves.
Unlike New Zealand and Canada, we have a clear constitutional right to be armed.
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King, give it up, no one wants another thread on gun control.
Actually, Threads on Gun Control are very important topics. We, and our guns are threatened much more by gun control than they are from rust, or using the wrong loads or hinge pin grease. Sticking our heads in the sand sends the wrong message that gun owners just don't care about preserving the 2nd Amendment. What we don't need is anti-gun Trolls like King or Ed creating dissension year after year. King has been sowing these bad seeds longer than I've been here, and he has been politely asked to stop just as long... to no avail. Democracies make choices. Americans accept mass murder to defend an individual right to bear arms in the name of personal freedom. Worse yet, we don't need King or other FUDD's advancing the silly idea that we are helped by welcoming and accepting those who continually stab us in the back by supporting the Liberal Left politicians who work relentlessly to enact ever more encroaching infringements upon the Gun Rights of law abiding citizens. That is as dumb as hiring a pedophile to babysit your kids.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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uh keet, first of awl, i'm glad dat you is still here...ah magined dat you an Ole joe were both sittin out in da col rain sharin ah can o beans...an perhaps lamintin yo pas deeds...
second, git ova hit dat ah am not anti gun, but ah am anti idiot an mal content, who typically mis use firearms...as stated befo, it aint duh gon dat is duh problem, but hit is da han behind hit...
an sum gons like sum utter machines, are too dangerous to be in da hands o de gineral public, who dees days, seem to include an extraordinary numba o wacko malcontents, such as yo self...keet, duh thought of a semi automatic firearms wid a hi cap mag in yo hans is ah scary thang...to me...
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an king, you like me, like to ax provocative, thought provoking questions...sadly, much of de audience here jes aint into thought...provocative or udder wise...
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Ed, wouldn't it be nice if you and King could just make all of your past statements on the subject of gun control just disappear? Unfortunately, you can't, and the anti-2nd Amendment reputation you have created for yourselves will be your legacy here: as for the gun control issue...we are the only country in the world that seems to tolerate mass murder, in the name of an individual right...its about time that we as a society realize that we are over gunned with too many super dangerous weapons in the hands of too many super dangerous people... it is long past time to do as the rest of the civilized world has done and simply, disarm...
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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....I noted little response on the forum, one way or the other, and offered my impression of Canadian gun and gun-shop owners and their organizations as giving up gun rights as a lost cause. If that were so, Canada with its own massacres, US and NZ are in the same boat. A trend? Probing thoughts King, but the probe is over, eh? I must have missed it. When did lil justin proclaim that you have gun rights? Maybe, whatever he giveth, he can taketh, like all good rights should be? Unfortunately, it seems you're spot on, NZ and Canada seem to be in the same boat, eh? Oh no, it may be faint, but the US of A still has a pulse, or your barometer says no?
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uh keet, please be so kind, as to esplain to us, zacky how suggesting that the general public consider voluntary disarmament in the interest of public safety, is some how anti second amendment?
it works for canada an europe...why not us? are we really all that more different and violent that we all need to be walking around packing heat?
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this whole concealed carry paranoia syndrome, reminds me of the cold war mutual destruction detente...
maybe we should all be wearing suicide vests, so a potential assailant would be assured of mutual self destruction, should we perceive that they are a threat to our well being...
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Just a little bit rude, craigd. Try Sunny Boy next time.
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Seeing it works and Europe in the same sentence made me chuckle. __________________________ I am the son, and the heir, of a liberalism that is criminally vulgar. Morrisey https://youtu.be/OztC_7nkAd8Sunny Boy is a Hatful of Hollow
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Michael, my post asked if there was a trend. It doesn't tell another country how to govern. Members have been particularly cautious the last couple years to steer away from partisan politics and gun control compared to other years. I posted to do otherwise would be liked bayoneting the wounded in current circumstances.
It's true Canada and New Zealand see their constitutional rights differently. Our citizens hunt and shoot to their heart's content. We don't think of it as a constitutional right to be armed, as if firearms are weapons. And we don't, as noted above, think of our electorate and parliamentarians as quislings.
Still, none will quarrel that the board isn't as toxic as it was. That's an unprecedented trend in itself. keith's comment has merit. Adults should be able to discuss gun control ad infinitum if they wish---without accusations of treachery and treason of members with other opinions.
And, Michael, this is an international board with far more attention to correctness of behaviour by others than we see from Americans. You've been pleading for common decency as long as I can remember. Please don't apply now a different standard to me.
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The USA has a strong pulse, craig. Don't need a barometer, it's plain as pudding. Everywhere electorates are changing the way they want to be governed. Gun rights aren't given by presidents or prime ministers, you know that. As abortion, capital punishment, hate crime bills etc they're expressions of wills of legislatures. What was normal 75 years ago is now "new normal."
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keith, I wouldn't want my posts to disappear. I've never understood why you repeated them. They make as much sense to me and others as proponents of other points of view. Political parties don't run their opponents' TV spots.
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....Gun rights aren't given by presidents or prime ministers, you know that. As abortion, capital punishment, hate crime bills etc they're expressions of wills of legislatures.... And, you hunt and shoot to your heart's content? Your heart's not in it, eh?
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King, much of what you see as "common decency" has been highly inflammatory Trolling for many years. It is one thing to discuss gun rights and the never ending threat to those rights. It is another thing entirely to make calls for disarming the American public, as your pal Ed has done, and to then make the moronic claim that such talk has nothing to do with support for infringements upon the 2nd Amendment.
Then we've had you many times saying you've never ever seen any anti-gun sentiment here in all your years on this forum. That is totally dishonest, and equally inflammatory. Then when you Troll your support for politicians like Obama with 100% anti-gun voting records on a firearms enthusiasts website, you shouldn't be shocked when shit-storms erupt. Canada has it's Gunnutz forum, Why don't you take your anti-gun crap and support for those who wish to ban guns there?
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keith, I wouldn't want my posts to disappear. I've never understood why you repeated them. They make as much sense to me and others as proponents of other points of view. Political parties don't run their opponents' TV spots. Your weird little pen pal finds it highly offensive that I proposed posting an assemblage of all of your anti-gun posts as a tribute to your anti-gun legacy here. So much in fact that he has spent considerable time digging for dirt on me and working to silence me. Perhaps you should tell him how proud you are of your extensive anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment, and anti-NRA rhetoric. I myself know you are proud of it. I re-post QUOTES of it as proof positive that Anti-gun Trolls haunt gun forums to LULL and to seed discontent... And to try to show that we should not embrace those who are undermining us and stabbing us in the back.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Canada has it's Gunnutz forum, Why don't you take your anti-gun crap and support for those who wish to ban guns there? Cat just ponied up a hundie. He aint goin nowhere. _________________________ Its all about the Benjamins.
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Canada has it's Gunnutz forum, Why don't you take your anti-gun crap and support for those who wish to ban guns there? Cat just ponied up a hundie. He aint goin nowhere. Of course he isn't. If he posted the same crap there as he posts here, Canadian gun owners would beat him like a baby seal.
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There is no never-ending threat to your gun rights, keith. Americans are in love with their guns. I've been saying that as long as I've been a member. Michael relates their possession to being armed against citizens. What's to fear?
You're concerned with slippery slopes, one seizure leading to another. How long since a gun grab? When I said Obama wouldn't do it, you called it lulling.The last place I'd look for a voice for disarming America would be on the most distinguished shotgun board anywhere.
Yes, Ed is mischievously stirring things up at times, as we all do in some way, but he's still a loyal and patriotic American to me. It isn't a crime to think differently.
As for GunNutz, the forum I've tried to arouse to action is the pro-gun groups, of which I'm a member. It's discouraging. Last week, discussing the fraternity's malaise about what Ottawa is promising because of massacres, our local gunshop owner threw up his arms and said, "King, I'm done with it, finished, find me a buyer." If you knew Dan, he wasn't kidding.
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I would have used a hockey metaphor but baby seal works.
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well, der you go agin keet...ah aint callin fur "disarming the American public"...i am suggesting that good citizens consider voluntary disarmament in the interest of public safety and social harmony...but, if one chooses to "keep and bear arms", then it is their constitutional right to do so...subject to state and local regulation...
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It is true that gun rights are not given by presidents or prime ministers. It is not true that they are expressions of the will of legislatures. I believe, as did our Founding Fathers, that we are endowed with certain unalienable rights by our Creator. Among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Part of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is the right of armed self defense.
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The Creator may endow the spirit but people make the laws. You're right on life, liberty and pursuit of happiness but with the Creator's caveat not at the expense and infringement of life, liberty and happiness of others. The arbiters are in legislatures. Close?
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The arbiters are in legislatures. Close? Couple of my favorite arbiters are Left Hook and Right Cross. _________________________ See, the Left and Right CAN work in harmony. Free your mind, your arse will follow.
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well, der you go agin keet...ah aint callin fur "disarming the American public"...i am suggesting that good citizens consider voluntary disarmament in the interest of public safety and social harmony...but, if one chooses to "keep and bear arms", then it is their constitutional right to do so...subject to state and local regulation... I went to school, I learned reading, writing & comprehension, But I am still a little puzzled by the above. So as I comprehend your writing Ed, the good citizens hand in their guns in the interest of public safety, right. Since when have the good citizens who are law abiding folk been the problem when it comes to public safety. Them or their guns are not doing wrong. Use the guns responsibly & store the guns safely out of reach of sticky fingers & you have public safety. Why hand the guns in ? What changes to being safer ? Will most people if still free to exercise their constitutional right do so & keep their lawful property ? What of the bad people & crims, will they still not be the same level of threat to public safety. Could you please post sensible & workable & comprehensible solutions ? O.M
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well, der you go agin keet...ah aint callin fur "disarming the American public"...i am suggesting that good citizens consider voluntary disarmament in the interest of public safety and social harmony...but, if one chooses to "keep and bear arms", then it is their constitutional right to do so...subject to state and local regulation... I went to school, I learned reading, writing & comprehension, But I am still a little puzzled by the above. So as I comprehend your writing Ed, the good citizens hand in their guns in the interest of public safety, right. Since when have the good citizens who are law abiding folk been the problem when it comes to public safety. Them or their guns are not doing wrong. Use the guns responsibly & store the guns safely out of reach of sticky fingers & you have public safety. Why hand the guns in ? What changes to being safer ? Will most people if still free to exercise their constitutional right do so & keep their lawful property ? What of the bad people & crims, will they still not be the same level of threat to public safety. Could you please post sensible & workable & comprehensible solutions ? O.M Moses, once again Ed is showing us the "idioticy" in which he writes is a reflection of his true self, an idjit!
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well, der you go agin keet...ah aint callin fur "disarming the American public"...i am suggesting that good citizens consider voluntary disarmament in the interest of public safety and social harmony...but, if one chooses to "keep and bear arms", then it is their constitutional right to do so...subject to state and local regulation... ....Since when have the good citizens who are law abiding folk been the problem when it comes to public safety.... King-n-ed might be looking at things based on their feelings. Law abiding can be a blur around creative enforcement.
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I think our friend Ed Good must have barely graduated from the Dogpatch High School-- His guidance counsellor, "Little Abner" decided his career path during his formative years, and his clumsy, ham-handed attempts at butchering the English language do his reputation no great service.
Ed- give it rest- it ain't playin' in Peoria!! Foxie!!
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King and Ed may prefer to live in communities where concealed carry is a rare thing, neighbouring New Hampshire not all that different from Nova Scotia (New Scotland). I can't speak for Ed but I believe that's what he was inferring. What's wrong with that?
Fox, I don't get hung up with language, grammar etc. I have four reference books 20 inches from my keyboard and make lots of mistakes. My closest friends are not articulate, country men, gentlemen, who I'd be honoured to have with me, anywhere, any time.
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King and Ed may prefer to live in communities where concealed carry is a rare thing, neighbouring New Hampshire not all that different from Nova Scotia (New Scotland). I can't speak for Ed but I believe that's what he was inferring. What's wrong with that?
Fox, I don't get hung up with language, grammar etc. I have four reference books 20 inches from my keyboard and make lots of mistakes. My closest friends are not articulate, country men, gentlemen, who I'd be honoured to have with me, anywhere, any time.
What's in their heads is what counts.
What's wrong with that you ask, King. I'll tell you. What Ed advocates does zero to make things safer. What Ed advocates does zero to lessen crime or reduce the illegal use of firearms. And if those were the only problems, fine. But what Ed advocates also provides cover for anti gun zealots, anxious to remove all firearms from everyone but government actors. What's wrong with it is that Ed's solution is about making his preference, his personal choice, mandatory for everyone. The socialist way. I must say I'm pretty disappointed in you, King. This thread was started, no matter how much you protest, as a finger in the eye to other members. Instead of enjoying some peace and doubleguns, in less than week, you couldn't resist a poke. A trend? I'll tell you what a trend is. A trend is anti gun zealots dancing on the grave of victims, using events like Christchurch to advance their political agenda while doing NOTHING to stop whatever level of carnage exists. A trend is the MSM gleefully publicizing every possible detail, no matter how irrelevant, to keep the event in the public eye, all at the service of their bottom line. All the while, creating a publicity machine that inspires other crazies.
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Two things should be definitely remembered. 1st; the 2nd amendment was not written about Sporting/Hunting guns or Target guns, it was about "Defensive" guns. 2nd as to inalienable rights "God" recognizes the difference between the defense of person &/or property & wanton Murder. Exo 22:2 If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
Exo 22:3 If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
Exo 22:4 If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double. God recognized that even if the "Thief's" intent was only to steal, if the homeowner felt his life endangered or if in the process of retaining his property the Thief was killed, he would NOT be held accountable for the thief's death.
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As for GunNutz, the forum I've tried to arouse to action is the pro-gun groups, of which I'm a member. It's discouraging. Last week, discussing the fraternity's malaise about what Ottawa is promising because of massacres, our local gunshop owner threw up his arms and said, "King, I'm done with it, finished, find me a buyer." If you knew Dan, he wasn't kidding.
King, there is a difference between your local gun shop owner and Gunnutz. Your gunshop owner may have been worn down by 25-30 years of ever increasing efforts by the government to make him give up his business, through various bureaucratic means. He's just one man against the state. Gunnutz, the on-line community of gunowners in Canada, is not complacent and far from throwing in the towel. If that's the impression you got, I'd suggest you need to look more closely. Numerous forums on gunnutz are devoted specifically to countering the antis, to publicizing that which the government would slip by us, to organizing protests. I can't imagine a more politically active forum. Over 200,000 members and more every day. We are double in size from when we brought down the gun registry. The recent (early March) caravan of protest that traveled from Alberta to Ottawa was started on and organized in it's initial stages on Gunnutz. And rest assured....as we approach the October federal election, people on Gunnutz will be organizing, requesting help and volunteering in specific ridings to try to unseat the gong show that is our current government, the one anxious to remove from private hands all handguns as quickly as they can. And cynically using Christchurch as the excuse.
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Two things should be definitely remembered. 1st; the 2nd amendment was not written about Sporting/Hunting guns or Target guns, it was about "Defensive" guns. 2nd as to inalienable rights "God" recognizes the difference between the defense of person &/or property & wanton Murder. Exo 22:2 If a thief be found breaking up, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him.
Exo 22:3 If the sun be risen upon him, there shall be blood shed for him; for he should make full restitution; if he have nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
Exo 22:4 If the theft be certainly found in his hand alive, whether it be ox, or ass, or sheep; he shall restore double. God recognized that even if the "Thief's" intent was only to steal, if the homeowner felt his life endangered or if in the process of retaining his property the Thief was killed, he would NOT be held accountable for the thief's death. I hate to say this, Miller, but the Old Testament is a less than valuable tool when fighting to preserve your gun rights. In today's society, rightly or wrongly, in the mind's of the majority, it is source material that is viewed as irrelevant at best and perverse at worst. While you and others may be, most today are not Bible literalists. To use it that way, in the literal sense, undermines your argument, in the majority view. And, of course, if the vast majority WERE literalists, we wouldn't have to constantly be defending these rights. Not being critical of you or your beliefs....only pointing out it's not viewed as a credible argument. The fact's are, however we got here, that everyone, and frankly every creature living, has a right to try to defend itself from attack and harm. THE RIGHT TO DEFEND OURSELVES HAS NEVER BEEN GIVEN TO US BY A GOVERNMENT. The only thing a government can do is take away the means to defend oneself. Which they have been doing for 5000 years.
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Thanks, James. I'm attentive to media although don't go personally to social, a powerful instrument of organization promotion. What you're seeing hasn't visited us hereabouts. My gun club, formerly fiercest activist in the province, lost its steam and individual efforts of rallying interest has feeble results. The West is the beating heart but with print disappearing magazine shelves no longer sell the national publicationI The Gunrunner; I doubt it's published now. I read daily the same stuff as you --The Star, GnM, National Post, all of conservative orientation except The Star. Their editorial and news columns are 100 per cent anti-gun, no public blowback. That's not to say if it's not printed it isn't there but general readers shouldn't be faulted for thinking the "new normal" is here.
In my work, I can say empirically that the most powerful promotion is word of mouth. No one is talking about what's coming around here. Is it same in your oasis of quiet contemplation?
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King, 200,000 members on gunnutz. They are only just figuring out they can be a powerful lobby. In active public membership they dwarf the antis.
But as you know there is a powerful, and now government subsidized to the tune of $600 million per year, MSM ready to do the government's bidding to keep that cash flow coming. And one tactic, at government direction, that they follow regularly is the broadcasting of misinformation, outright lies and scare tactics, designed to herd the general populace in a particular direction. That's no tin foil. We now have Trudeau's chief of staff Katie Telford on record as saying "say the word and we'll have 100 op-eds published next week".
Trudeau's government has brought us to the brink of loss of democracy. It's no joke. And folksy, ambiguous anecdotes simply add to the confusion and harm.
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Guess them Yeller Jackets didnt read the op-eds.
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King and Ed may prefer to live in communities where concealed carry is a rare thing, neighbouring New Hampshire not all that different from Nova Scotia (New Scotland). I can't speak for Ed but I believe that's what he was inferring. What's wrong with that?.... Hmmm, concealed. How do you know it's a rare thing? Do your legislators have the will to enforce mandatory kilt inspections, or do you find comfort in their talking points? Now that we cleared that up, maybe you are right, we should all live in communities where items you refer to as assault weapons, are common things. Think of it like a women's rights issue. We prefer to live in communities where all men are pigs, but some men are entitled to live in no go zones, eh? Just kidding King, I realize none of this is a passing thought where you live. It makes me think of a story I read on the internet. A proper pc family was out on a picnic at a gun free lake side park. The grandpa says, I gonna jump the water to cool off. A bit later, the young kids are aghast when he emerges from the depths wielding a shotgun. No kidding, I read that, and things like that have got to stop. Right now!
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canvasback; Whether anyone else believes in God or Not I DO; About the only New Testament reference I am aware of is this; Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. This was spoken by Jesus himself & was not given as a "Command" but as a fact recognized by all, used as an illustration. I added this as an answer to those, & yes I have heard this used, that defensive killing is condemned by the commandment "Thou Shalt not Kill". Even heard a lady "politician" once say this condemned the practice of capital punishment. Fact is God recognizes the difference in Thou Shalt Not Kill & Thou Shalt Not Commit Murder, which is the actual meaning of this command by present language. At the time that law was given, the punishment for its violation was the perpetrator was to taken outside the city & STONED TO DEATH. If that's not Capital Punishment I don't know what is. I do also know for a fact there are many on this forum who also believe in God, don't want them to be Fooled into believing that God Prohibits Self Defence.
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King, 200,000 members on gunnutz. They are only just figuring out they can be a powerful lobby. In active public membership they dwarf the antis.... I think you just shot 'em in the foot before they got their legs under them. When they figure out that they can be a powerful lobby, King may start a trend by comparing them to the NRA.
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Please understand Miller. I'm not being critical of your beliefs in any way. I'm only talking about effective and ineffective strategies and tactics for countering antis.
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Do your legislators have the will to enforce mandatory kilt inspections...
Reminds me of Marlowes Faust. I can imagine King as the process unfolds saying... Search me! Search me! ___________________________ Some really good material here.
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". . . a picnic at a gun free lake side park." Imagine it: a community legislating a gun-free park.That's unconstitutional, isn't it? How'd that come about?
Kilts are common, the first Europeans here wore them. My tartan is Clan Lamont, delight to the eye, all nine yards of it. Swings wonderfully.
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Miller, I've known you here for a long time as a principled person. I respect your faith. The US is moving away from capital punishment. We may agree, referencing thief in scripture, that killing to protect property is murder. To protect life, a different matter. I'd go further than you and say a strong majority of our members have a spiritual life and believe as you do in different ways.
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". . . Swings wonderfully....
Never mind.
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". . . a picnic at a gun free lake side park." Imagine it: a community legislating a gun-free park.That's unconstitutional, isn't it? How'd that come about?
Kilts are common, the first Europeans here wore them. My tartan is Clan Lamont, delight to the eye, all nine yards of it. Swings wonderfully.
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Interesting mine's Clan Riddell
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Big surprise. I thought you were punning, as Clan Riddle. No such clan. Never heard of it. Then, there you are in the Baronetage of Nova Scotia (1625-1706). I wrote a story of this imaginative settlement effort as a reporter 60 years ago. You come straight down the line, I a sept wretch. But all eyes were on me in full ceremonial dress at the American Museum of Natural History when I accepted the world's top prize for sustainable forestry nearly five years ago. Do you wear a kilt?
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My brother-in-law did when he and my sister got married. We havent let him live it down to this day. Hence the knife fight that one Thanksgiving. Everyone was on his side. __________________________ I was wondering what twists and turns this thread would take. Tried to steer it towards hockey. Fail.
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Big surprise. I thought you were punning, as Clan Riddle. No such clan. Never heard of it. Then, there you are in the Baronetage of Nova Scotia (1625-1706). I wrote a story of this imaginative settlement effort as a reporter 60 years ago. You come straight down the line, I a sept wretch. But all eyes were on me in full ceremonial dress at the American Museum of Natural History when I accepted the world's top prize for sustainable forestry nearly five years ago. Do you wear a kilt? Nope, no punning. From Edinburgh to Ontario to Michigan, and from there all over the US, at least my part of the family, the others, no clue!
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My clan's motto is illegitimi non carborundum
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[quote=Goillini]My clan's motto is illegitimi non carborundum [/qu4ote]
Must be from the paper weight clan!
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There is no never-ending threat to your gun rights, keith. Americans are in love with their guns. I've been saying that as long as I've been a member. Michael relates their possession to being armed against citizens. What's to fear?
You're concerned with slippery slopes, one seizure leading to another. How long since a gun grab? When I said Obama wouldn't do it, you called it lulling.The last place I'd look for a voice for disarming America would be on the most distinguished shotgun board anywhere.
This is a typical example of your dishonesty concerning the subject of Gun Rights King. First you start a thread with your observation that new gun restrictions here and in New Zealand may be evidence of a Trend that gun owners are tiring and less apt to resist the continual assault on our Rights. Then you say here that there is no never ending threat. Liberal Left Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was promising new threats against us before she was even sworn into office. The current bill she is advancing is for Universal Background checks, and she also wishes to reinstate Bill Clinton's Assault Rifle Bans. Hillary Clinton and many Democrats promised sweeping new gun control during their campaigns. For you to say Obama wouldn't do it was simply LULLING, and you know it. Obama said his failure to pass sweeping new restrictions and bans was his greatest failure as president. It was ONLY because of the number of Americans who love their guns that Obama was thwarted. But you said we should give into him, and you criticized the NRA for fighting back. And when you can clearly see Ed's calls for disarming Americans, and then flatly deny such anti-gun rhetoric exists here, then it becomes obvious that your dishonesty (and his) is pathological. I think many here don't recognize King's penchant for Passive-Aggressive communication, and mistake it for some degree of decorum. He he is able to convey unreasonable concepts in a usually reasonable manner. That's the essence of attempted sociopathic indoctrination and manipulation. What Ken61 was saying there is that your dishonesty is not civility, and you aren't fooling anyone except fools. I want to see you take your anti-gun blather to Canada's Gunnutz forum, and let us see how it plays there.
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Here are a few examples of new laws or bills introduced in Illinois since the beginning of 2019: triple the waiting period for long gun purchases, state licensing of dealers in addition to the FFL, special tax on ammo, and serialization of ammunition. I'm sure I've missed a few. Clearly it's fair to say there is a continuing threat to gun rights in the State of Illinois. And we have a Democrat governor and Democrat super majorities in both the house and senate. So a lot of the crazy bills, like serialization of ammunition, have a decent chance of passing and being signed into law.
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keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Bump stock ban is no big deal to me. America decided long ago that full auto weapons should not be in public hands; then made it OK with the purchase of a $200 tax stamp.
The bump stock created a quasi full auto workaround which was (I think)properly done away with. Probably the same effect could be achieved with two eye screws and the right size rubber band. I think the NRA agreed...Geo
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You're playing right into King's slippery slope mantra. He says the US just banned an entire genre of firarms, and rubber bands are next. If we're gonna save eye screws, we'll have to come up with a use for them on the left. I wonder if a mega corp brings them in from china, will they be ok with King, hmmm.
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Please understand Miller. I'm not being critical of your beliefs in any way. I'm only talking about effective and ineffective strategies and tactics for countering antis. James, I am not, in any way, speaking for Miller. He is more than competent to speak for himself. But, I count myself among the ones who feel that trying to live the right way, following our Lord and Savior Jesus, is more important than having what the world views as "effective strategies and tactics" to counter the antis. The ultimate enemy is not the antis, it is the one who "feeds" them ............. Satan. It is good to use smart tactics to counter the enemy, and we are wise to do so. But, we are not the source of the strength that will ultimately defeat the enemy. God is. "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in heavenly places". Ephesians 6:12 SRH
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I appreciate your comments Stan.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Thanks, James.
All my best, SRH
May God bless America and those who defend her.
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moses: re handing guns in...i am not at all suggesting that anyone do that...i am suggesting that we keep our concealable hand guns at home...and cease the wide spread practice of carrying concealed high cap semi auto handguns on a daily, routine basis...people who do so, are suffering from fear based paranoia...that paranoia is causing others to suffer from a similar fear based paranoia...seems like everybody is now afraid of everybody else...as a result, fear is contributing to the disintegation of our civil social structure...its like the wild west type culture has returned...
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Stan, your opinion is a good one: "trying to live the right way, following our Lord and Savior Jesus." Human conduct is not guaranteed by religion or secularism. Nothing seems safe or certain. Trying hard to follow Jesus's teaching keeps the bad stuff at bay.
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well, der you go agin keet...ah aint callin fur "disarming the American public"...i am suggesting that good citizens consider voluntary disarmament in the interest of public safety and social harmony...but, if one chooses to "keep and bear arms", then it is their constitutional right to do so...subject to state and local regulation... Here is what you said ED. O.M
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all religious teachings that i am familiar with, provide us with a guide to live the right way...the old and new testaments are the best guides that i am aware of so far...
without religion, we have no moral guide...without a moral guide we have no virtue...without virtue, we have no civility...
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....i am suggesting that we keep our concealable hand guns at home...and cease the wide spread practice of carrying concealed high cap semi auto handguns on a daily, routine basis...people who do so, are suffering from fear based paranoia...that paranoia is causing others to suffer from a similar fear based paranoia...seems like everybody is now afraid of everybody else...as a result, fear is contributing to the disintegation of our civil social structure...its like the wild west type culture has returned... Hey ed, why don't you wake up RM Bill and ask him to splain what the folks do in Montana. When I go hunting out there, or stop for gas or lunch, I assume everyone has a gun on them or in their vehicle. Ask Bill to find you a voting map of MT, and you'll find crime skewed towards the dem voting counties. Read your above version of scripture again, and you might have the will to see that you are the problem.
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craig, my perception of montana is that it is a relatively crime free environment, similar to nh where i live most of the time...if so, then one wonders why so many people in mt feel the need to be armed ...
and as for dem voters, i am surprised that there are any in mt...
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....i am suggesting that we keep our concealable hand guns at home...and cease the wide spread practice of carrying concealed high cap semi auto handguns on a daily, routine basis...people who do so, are suffering from fear based paranoia...that paranoia is causing others to suffer from a similar fear based paranoia...seems like everybody is now afraid of everybody else...as a result, fear is contributing to the disintegation of our civil social structure...its like the wild west type culture has returned... I dunno ed. I think these are your perceptions. You seem very consistent as to where you like to assign blame. If you were trying to appear reasonable, would you listen to paranoid ed?
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I guess I am extra paranoid, since, in addition to my .38 snubby, I have a fire extinguisher, and, AND, insurance, on my cars and home!
Delusional paranoia of some sort, Im sure.
After the dude in St. Cloud brought the big sword to the mall there a few years past, and started asking questions of people he randomly met, and chopping at those who couldnt answer his questions about the Koran, I felt a whole lot differently about my snubby, the mall, and where the Wife and kid were when we were in public. He was killed by an armed, but, off duty, cop, and, you didnt hear about the incident on your news because St. Cloud is a long way from you, and, the incident didnt fit the narrative, and stuff.
Im getting better with paranoias on a daily basis, Thank you very much.
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I involuntarily disarmed myself Friday scouting for turkeys. I carry (well, I did before Friday) a Ruger LCP .380 in a pocket holster which I had in my jacket mountain biking on a gated trail. It got hot so I removed the jacket and my pistol must have fallen out. I've back tracked the 3 mile long road several times and it's gone. If any of you find it, pm me.  Gil
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all religious teachings that i am familiar with, provide us with a guide to live the right way...the old and new testaments are the best guides that i am aware of so far...
without religion, we have no moral guide...without a moral guide we have no virtue...without virtue, we have no civility... cum hoc ergo propter hoc
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...scouting for turkeys...
... a Ruger LCP .380...
my pistol must have fallen out...
Better be packin more than Love Potion #9 this Spring. Theres a turkey out there that just gained 10 pounds and a west coast strut. ____________________________ https://youtu.be/6DIv0_WvXNY
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You understand that you do not need a bump stock to affect "simulated full auto fire" from a semi automatic rifle right? All you need to do is slip your trigger finger through the trigger guard, hook it in your belt loop and push the rifle forward with the other hand until it fires. keep forward tension on it and 30 rds go in about 1.5 seconds.
do we ban trousers with belt loops? or fingers?
there is a Class 3 manufacturer who wanted to illustrate the lunacy/stupidity of the current gun laws and legislation that makes the masses feel good but doesn't prevent anything. . he is a licensed Class 3, title II manufacturer and can legally make automatic weapons. he took a string, yes a piece of string, put a loop in each end and turned a mini 14 into a full automatic. he even attached a metal coupon with a registered serial number to the string. He then took a piece of coat hanger and made a simple couple of bends in it and serial numbered it also. put it in a registered lower and ran full auto with it. do we ban coat hangers?
point is, full auto fire is easy to do with any semi automatic mechanism from an AR15 to a Remington model 742 Woodmaster.
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craig, my perception of montana is that it is a relatively crime free environment, similar to nh where i live most of the time...if so, then one wonders why so many people in mt feel the need to be armed ...
and as for dem voters, i am surprised that there are any in mt... same reason why so many in NH feel the need to be armed. BTW , NH has the highest per capita ownership of full auto firearms in the country!!
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...scouting for turkeys...
... a Ruger LCP .380...
my pistol must have fallen out...
Better be packin more than Love Potion #9 this Spring. Theres a turkey out there that just gained 10 pounds and a west coast strut. Ah, the bagpipe played by Willie. I heard an Irish musician that I know comment on the origins of the Torture Trumpet. The Irish invented it; gave it to the Scots who never got the joke. ____________________________ https://youtu.be/6DIv0_WvXNY
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Hey, Brian.
All that TPTB do then is the same as in Australia & now New Zealand.
Ban semi autos because of this potential.
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Yikes! Watch out for AOC, she's comin for em!
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[ "...point is, full auto fire is easy to do with any semi automatic mechanism from an AR15 to a Remington model 742 Woodmaster." Brian]
Bad direction this thread is going. Good argument for losing semi-autos...Geo
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[ "...point is, full auto fire is easy to do with any semi automatic mechanism from an AR15 to a Remington model 742 Woodmaster." Brian]
Bad direction this thread is going. Good argument for losing semi-autos...Geo
huh?? then lets ban high performance cars and motorcycles because someone may speed with one. these are all inanimate objects. they require human interaction to function properly or improperly. I don't see how my stating that any legal semi auto, regardless of configuration can be made to function similar to (not converted to) automatic fire is a good reason to just accept the antis wanting to ban them? am I missing something here?
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that's like saying we shouldn't mention that there are those that claim they can operate a pump gun faster than a semi automatic. wouldn't that be a good argument to losing pumps.???
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Hang on, where's ed. This could easily devolve into confiscation. Maybe, he can talk the fellows into voluntarily leaving their pants at home.
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Not my argument, theirs. You're just confirming it. Besides, I doubt it's as easy as people claim it is to do...Geo
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you dont even need to use your belt loop. just push forward on fore end while holding trigger finger against trigger, do not wrap hand around grip. recoil does the rest.
don't shoot the nessenger
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I like my eye screw and rubber band Macgyver idea best...Geo
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What you are missing here Brian is that the banning of any or semi auto guns is not about saving lives of the public.
If you look at it from that perspective of saving lives then none of it makes any sense.
Surely you can work out why TPTB want the citizenry disarmed and will go to any length to achieve this end. Make any excuse to and tell any lie.
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I am not missing anything. that is precisely my point.
it is always about symbolism over substance.
feelings over reality.
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It would be very easy to jump onto the "reasonable gun laws" argument. The problem is, when has the left ever been about "compromise" or "reasonable" or working together?
One must accept that the left wants no guns, period.
Personally, I don't own or shoot AR type rifles or what the media calls "Assault weapons." However, I support a person's right to own one provided that they are otherwise not prohibited from having a firearm. If I don't support them, who will support my activities when they are targeted next?
If you ban these type of weapons, only criminals will have them. Or, the next lunatic will simply use a pump-action, lever-action or what have you. Then the left will say "we want those too."
We as a country, need to get to the root cause of the problem, which in my opinion is mental illness and an overly medicated and soft population.
Deranged people are going to kill, no matter the method. We see it in Europe and elsewhere, swords, cars, trucks. etc.
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Give them an inch & they take a mile.
The thin edge of the wedge. Once it is in then the hammering starts.
Till it is ridiculous.
I don't smoke & I don't mind if others want to.
But here smoking is banned in public places & within 4 metres of doorways & even in hotel bar rooms. Drinking inside, smoking & drinking out in the beer garden.
I can order a meal over the bar & eat it in the dining room or sitting at the bar, but not in the beer garden. The law forbids me to eat in a designated smoking area.
So not just a smoking law but an eating law riding on its back.
This is the sort of nonsensical thing you have to put up with when you let the left off the leash.
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...scouting for turkeys...
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Better be packin more than Love Potion #9 this Spring. Theres a turkey out there that just gained 10 pounds and a west coast strut. ____________________________ https://youtu.be/6DIv0_WvXNY I got the gun back. It was a seat of the pants impromptu buy-back program of sorts in a south Georgia swamp this morning. A young punk turkey's life for the gun. I was back on the beat this morning three days after losing it Friday. The mean streets. I heard a ruckus and snuck-up on a flock of Gangsta' Jakes. The scene was illuminated by a dim street light. That's right. A swamp street light. One of those blinking sodium jobs. The head jake held the gun to the skull of an armadillo. The punk had seen too many Hollywood flics. The gun was held with the grip parallel to the ground. The armadillo was shedding enough leprosy tears to fill a go cup. Armadillos are known carriers for Hansen's Disease. That's right. Your nose is going to fall off leprosy. "Drop the gat" I said. "Huh?" "The piece" "Huh" "The heat" "Huh? "The gun, three toes." This punk is dumber than a bucket of Kentucky Fried. Three feathers short of a full fan... He hesitated. Sweat was dripping off his dewlap down to his wattles. His spindly legs were shaking. "you know what I got in the gun, beak lips. And I'm pointing it at you. I'll fill your loose ship up with pixie dust to where the sun doesn't shine on your lips." "You've screwed up mixing the metaphors, sir. And one of them is entirely inappropriate for network family viewing. Maybe okay on cable. YOU drop the gun or the 'dillo drops. The rat ate my sister's eggs." he bluffed. "Let me correct you, feather butt. Actually he's not a rat, not a rodent or marsupial. He's in the same family as anteaters and sloths. I got no love lost for combat rats. Now or never. My pistol for your life" Here's where he dropped it. The armadillo scurried off without a thank you and I missed my shot at it. I never did like possum on the half shell. Damn pixie dust patterns too damn tight for snap shooting. Buy back complete and it's home sweet home for the gat. Little did the tree sleeper know I don't shoot jakes. I walked away with my trench coat snagging on cat briers. Down the road my Mickey Spillane edition trench coat (in Mossy Oak) tangled in my front wheel of my mountain bike and over the handlebars I went. Life in the mean woods. 
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True Detective work there GLS. The swamp is a safer place. I'da shot the jake...Geo
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Hmmm, no mountain bike tracks to be found. You should have checked where you took that reading break first, it seems like you were there for a while? Glad you found your little pocket buddy.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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great story, only thing missin was an owl...
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great story, only thing missin was an owl... Ed, that was damn funny.
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Or, perhaps, a "Maltese Falcon"?? Great story line- someone raised on Raymond Chandler and Dashiell Hammett would appreciate this piece of creative writing-- RWTF
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The most obvious trend of the thread is a lot of opinions but none indicating members of a roiled temperament; everyone has their say.
More posts on the page than all others combined, on-and-off threads were informational and a pleasure for me. Thank you.
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amazed to see gun control advocates lamenting folks ceasing and desisting in the fight against gun control! It does wear one down from time to time, all the unending fight against the gun-grabbers. One gun shop in Garland Tx even closed its doors this month over frustration with atf paperwork! Please, God, just one month's open season on liberal socialist gun grabbers.
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amazed to see gun control advocates lamenting folks ceasing and desisting in the fight against gun control! Oh gosh, this LULLING and lying is nothing new for King Brown. He's been doing it for years. He was trying to tell us that membership in the NRA was declining when it was growing. And who could forget when he told us that his idol Barack Obama had kept his legislative gun in his holster when he knew damn well that Obama had pursued more anti-gun restrictions and signed numerous executive orders to enact restrictions he could not get through Congress? It's hardly mean-spirited to note that I'm an Obama supporter. I'm proud of it, apparent here as long as he's been around. He's anti-gun but has kept his legislative gun in his holster to position his party for '16. He basically said the same thing here, after once again making the false claim that the Supreme Court changed the meaning of the 2nd Amendment: The Court in 2008 District of Columbia v. Heller changed the 200-year-old narrowly interpreted Second from serving in the militia to an individual right. Do you favour democratic processes over justice of stacked courts?
Why I ask, as I mentioned earlier, is that there is no political will to change regulations; Obama talked about it but did nothing. What party would commit suicide by taking away what a majority considers a sacred right?
But King has made that same false claim about the Supreme Court, or the NRA, or Attorney General John Ashcroft changing the original intent of the Framers of the Constitution concerning the Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms many times... even after being shown numerous quotes by the Framers proving their intent: The Court departed from the original understanding of the Second. The NRA and other groups rejected the original interpretation. Even as late as 1991, the jurist Burger appointed by Nixon said "the Second Amendment has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word 'fraud,' on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime." In 2008, in the District of Columbia v. Heller, what Burger said was fraud was accepted by the court. Interesting stuff. Ed, historically the individual "right" to bear arms is relatively new. I believe John Ashcroft in 2002 became the first federal attorney-general to proclaim that individuals should be able to own guns. The Supreme Court in 2008 overturned all mainstream legal and historical scholarship by ruling that there is an individual right to own firearms although with some limits. Obama said it again last week.
I believe that during the previous 218 years the Second meant what it said: firearms shall be held by "the People"---a collective and not individual right---insofar they are in the service of "a well-regulated militia." Was an individual right even mentioned at the Constitutional Convention or in the House when it ratified the Amendment or when debated in state legislatures? I don't think so. While most gun owners celebrated the 2008 U.S. Supreme Court Heller and McDonald decisions affirming our rights, King was sorry that a pro-2nd Amendment President had been able to nominate a pro-2nd Amendment Justice, and tip the balance away from Liberal Left Judicial activists who see the Constitution as a so-called "Living Document", subject to whims and personal opinions rather than Original Intent:
If the Supreme Court hadn't decided for Bush with a half-million less votes than Gore on a one-time-only theory of the Constitution's guarantee of "equal protection of the laws," the Second today would protect states' authority only to raise militias and not individuals' right to own guns.
And here's where King was even able to make excuses for Liberal Left Democrats who violate their Oath to "Preserve, Protect, and Defend the Constitution", and then work to infringe upon the 2nd Amendment: With respect, you tend to believe the written as something sacrosanct as it appears in the Constitution and other bills. Look at the Oath you posted: It says only that the president will do to "the best of my ability" to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution. What he determines "best"---wrongly or rightly.
This is but a small fraction of King's history here. This is his anti-2nd Amendment legacy... relentlessly working to undermine and demoralize American gun owners. Just the kind of guy you want in your Big Tent of gun owners... stabbing you in the back until his last breath.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Hope he draws it soo....um.....never mind
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Ah, keith, I love ya. Did you file one of my first posts that the hunting fraternity won't be recognizable from what it was when I joined it nearly 80 years ago? In another post I said it would be unrecognizable before I'm dead. We're there now. Each massacre restricts freedom everywhere, one way or another, of what we've done responsibly and legally all our lives. An authoritarianism reigns, constitutions change seemingly in a flash, fearful majorities say enough is enough. It's a conceit to believe otherwise; our blood relationship is fractured, gone. Some lulling, eh!
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Ah, keith, I love ya. Did you file one of my first posts that the hunting fraternity won't be recognizable from what it was when I joined it nearly 80 years ago? In another post I said it would be unrecognizable before I'm dead. We're there now. Each massacre restricts freedom everywhere, one way or another, of what we've done responsibly and legally all our lives. An authoritarianism reigns, constitutions change seemingly in a flash, fearful majorities say enough is enough. It's a conceit to believe otherwise; our blood relationship is fractured, gone. Some lulling, eh! ___________________________ Team M at Columbus tonight. This chap had one too many beers, eh. https://youtu.be/ogwMLxx4Yg4:22-:24 lol
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Massacres don't restrict firearms freedoms King. But liberal left anti-gunners certainly do. Funny they aren't so concerned about greater numbers of people dying from other preventable causes such as opiate overdoses or teens texting while driving.
And you act as though hunting is coming to some inevitable end when nothing could be further from the truth. Times and equipment have changed, and so have habitats in many places. But the lesser participation we see in some quarters is also happening with many other non-shooting activities, and is not indicative of a culture discarding guns or gun rights. Again, that particular assault is coming from you and yours.... the Liberal Left. You can pretend you are on our side, but your words and actions betray you.
The times... they are a-changing though. It is getting harder for pedophiles to prey upon children without getting caught. Things like DNA catch killers and rapists who would have slipped through the cracks when you were young It is getting harder for bosses and politicians and people in power to abuse and molest women without getting busted. And it is finally getting harder for anti-gunners to pretend they are on our side while they slip under our Big Tent and stab us in the backs.
This is as it should be. And your words and rhetoric should remain as a legacy... and a lesson that just because someone owns and shoots a few guns does not mean they are in any way helping to preserve gun rights for present or future generations.
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Massacres don't restrict freedoms? Say that to Anzacs. US responded with bump stocks, Canada tightening background checks, considering handgun ban.
Remember my post that it had to happen; majorities rule? Majorities are in cities occupied by rural folk to take in each other's wash, couldn't make it at home.
None of our three girls and three boys, eight grandchildren and seven great grandchildren have slightest interest in guns, around them here all the time.
They see me as a throwback, a sort of dinosaur, to be patronized for a few more years because the guns will be gone when I'm gone.
I'm of my time, they of theirs. I admire them for not wanting to kill birds and animals. They know I admire them for it. That's part of my legacy, too.
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They see me as a throwback, a sort of dinosaur, to be patronized...
More like dotard. Massacre in the Midlands. https://youtu.be/WARs-xon-Xg___________________________ Typical Team M. Dirty. https://youtu.be/ukFaqqhJ78M
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Dinosaur, lonesome. No one accuses me of dotage. My wish for you is to be as healthy and active and useful and happy as as I am in the wage economy at my age.
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... useful and happy as as I am in the wage economy at my age. And what, pray tell, is this useful service provided? ___________________________ One mans dinosaur is another mans dotard. L Rhodes
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Husbanding a good woman, taking my turn at the communal oars is part of it, natually. Professionally, president of a provincial private woodlot owners organization, fastest growing in sustainable forestry to the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC) standard in Canada, ranked third and fourth in size and growth in North America.
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No King, you are wrong. Massacres still don't restrict freedoms. If that was true, the massacre of 87 innocents in Nice, France in 2016 would have resulted in restrictions on trucks, Muslims, or both. The firearms restrictions you reference were the typical response when the Liberal Left exploits tragedy and emotions in the aftermath of crimes where the firearms they despise were used.
If the great object was really saving lives, then where is that same "If it only saves one life...." attitude when it comes to stemming the flow of drugs across our Southern border when we have more opiate overdoses in one year than the entire total of combat deaths during the entire Viet Nam war?
I gave you other examples, but you aren't interested in being truthful. You would much rather twist and deflect and change the subject by once again boring us all to tears with bloviating and bragging about your pulpwood harvesting consortium. Personally, I hope to be successful and productive enough that I can enjoy retirement long before I reach your age.
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Husbanding a good woman, taking my turn at the communal oars is part of it, natually. Professionally, president of a provincial private woodlot owners organization, fastest growing in sustainable forestry to the Forest Stewardship Council (FSC) standard in Canada, ranked third and fourth in size and growth in North America. Im just trying to figure out what any of this has to do with the wage economy. I cant believe they pay him for that tree thing. _____________________________ Some good hockey on tonight. Get your popcorn and soft drinks ready, King.
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Dotage, thought you asked how I was useful.
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Dotage, thought you asked how I was useful. Indirectly I suppose. I was just wondering if you were still selling propaganda puff pieces to the local fish wrap. The tree thing is much more respectable. __________________________ Guarantee you wouldnt use dotage on the ice. At least a second time.
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Labatts Blue and venison salami on saltines is my standard fare for watching hockey-- Thank you Canada, for inventing "prize-fighting on ice""-- RWTF
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Labatts Blue and venison salami on saltines is my standard fare for watching hockey-- Thank you Canada, for inventing "prize-fighting on ice""-- RWTF That and Red Green. https://youtu.be/Lb1rQF2nvWE____________________________ Team M and Columbus are winning.
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Caps sent a bit of a message to the Lightning last night. Wilson is a beast. https://youtu.be/Iex4LteuFgE__________________________ Bless you Boys. (84 Tigers) https://youtu.be/H4TkizaHtdM
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Preds didnt do Team M any favors losing.
Columbus definitely has the easier remaining schedule.
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I guess its just the three of us in the hockey thread; me, myself and I. Thats OK, Ill just babble on until it is locked or June, whichever comes first. Going to be an interesting last week of the regular season. _________________________ Greatest Game on Earth. https://youtu.be/ssfz6I9PJbg
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Wings rooked again in the draft lottery. Looked like Hughes was ready to cry when NJ got first pick.
Boston/Toronto is going to be fun.
Calgary is Canadas best hope. Good luck.
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Lol. Just noticed you going on here, LR.
It will pick up after Wednesday.
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Some great hockey and a golf tournament for the ages. Lightning down 3-0 to Columbus. Unbelievable. Redemption (The Sun Also Rises) https://youtu.be/UzRmUq2KfkU____________________________ Money isnt everything! King Brown True, but it sure beats being broke. Lcpl Lonny Rhodes
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Broken in spirit is worse, lonesome. I get a kick out of the constant refrain of fixing up costing more than it's worth, as if everything has to be a profitable commercial arrangement. I doubt members think that way generally, including collectors who admire provenance and craftsmanship as much as the dollar.
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Watching the Caps, they are on autopilot at times. Playing crushing defense, then turning on the offensive pressure for a couple minutes then going back on defense. Its like they are conserving energy for later in the playoffs. Works on lesser teams, like the first round, but dont expect it to work in the next round. But if they are not too banged up they should be better off in the next round. Guess thats what the coaches hope for. Easy first round to be healthy in the next.
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Watching the Caps... Playing crushing defense... Not tonight. Ovechkin did crush this kids face though. Young, dumb, and full of con cussion. (Then Mrazek hits him on the head going to the locker room :-) ) https://youtu.be/SeUmmkn4meg____________________________ This is a hockey thread, King. Not that interested in your philosophy. Looks like Sid is going to get a jump on fishing season, eh?
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Id rather fight a bear than Ovechkin.
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Have fun fishing, Sid. https://youtu.be/2mAvuUOzOaQBlue Jackets sweep the Lightning too. Hope Winnipeg loses tonight. ___________________________ Worth another look. https://youtu.be/PAtE5E3FapM
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Winnipeg will be winning tonight just as the Conservative party in Alberta has won tonight. By a commanding majority. Good riddance to the socialists who screwed up Alberta for the last 4 years.
We can only hope the Conservatives sweep Trudeau from office in the same fashion come October. Before Trudeau is able to pass the bill prohibiting handguns.
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Jets 2 Blues blue.
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Yeah, on the Kid. You didn't mention Sunday night's other Nova Scotians, MacKinnon and Marchand, deciders in their games. Go Nova Scotia go!
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The wee Nova Scotian lad had a pretty good game, Kingsley. Goal and two assists. Third star. Back to Boston. ___________________________ https://youtu.be/1kFCPwEa6ic
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Another one seed in the weeds. Looks like the Flames (Snow) goose is cooked. __________________________ https://youtu.be/5cqMXojfgJE
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It's looking like that and another big upset in the making. I'm liking that. Every time a power house goes out, the Jets get a little closer. Long way yet though.
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Must have missed it. How did the New Zealanders define "assault weapons"? Was it any semi-automatic weapon?
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Must have missed it. How did the New Zealanders define "assault weapons"? Was it any semi-automatic weapon? Wrong thread, mate. Oy, canvasback, just for you. Hottie at :21. __________________________ https://youtu.be/LYBdupgbl4s
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Kings new favorite team. https://youtu.be/enCD2Ef9u7cThe Captain has returned to Detroit. Steve Yzerman named GM yesterday. Just need St Louis to eliminate those pests from Manitoba. Boston in serious trouble. ___________________________ Aint it a shame, to be shot down in Flames https://youtu.be/UKwVvSleM6w
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The game winner/hat trick https://youtu.be/rk-7k6RNArYYou gonna watch baseball or what? Ive always liked Torts (Columbus) but thinking Vegas now. __________________________ Cant see you rooting for Toronto.
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I dropped Leafs when Smythe, a good man, ruled his players wear short haircuts the military way---how many decades ago?
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Marchand again good Sunday nights, eh? Ever wonder why three Nova Scotians all from a Halifax program are 100-pointers? Go Nova Scotia go!
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Well, King, it seems like were still in business. Looks like the commissioner did a little house cleaning. I think we make good role models and examples of how gentlemanly banter is supposed to be. I am somewhat surprised and disappointed in your provincialism though. Here in Hockeytown, aka Detroit, we appreciate diversity and embrace hockey players from Russia, Sweden, Finland, Czechoslovakia, and yes, even Canada. I think your enjoyment of the game would increase exponentially if you did the same.
Couple of game 7s tonight. Die Toronto, DIE!
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When I was young, I had a team, the Habs, only because of The Rocket and later Belliveau. In the old Forum, I've never seen the intensity of The Rocket crossing the blue line. Then I met Yzerman in Montreal. And then Orr took my eye, and Gretzky who my family did a favour and he reciprocated most generously to a terminally ill boy, a neighbour. I liked the goofiness of Eddy Shack, so the attraction for me is in the characters. I no longer have a team. Now imagine the amazing amalgam of Marchand, MacKinnon and Crosby, covering the sublime to ridiculous, each 100-pointers from a Nova Scotia neighbourhood-- similar to my polyglot NHL characters. Call it provincialism, nationalism, chauvinism or screwball. You're in a lonely orbit, lonesome. You've a team; I have a wonderful world cast of characters 24/7.
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Pulling for Toronto. Expecting the Bruins. Nashville bites the dust. This has been a bad post season for top teams from the season.
King, years ago I used to do business with Shack. What a character.
Detroit? Hockeytown? LR, Don't make me laugh.
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Detroit? Hockeytown? LR, Don't make me laugh.
If I had wanted to make you laugh I would have said Winnipeg. Or any other Canadian city for that matter. 26 and counting. ___________________________ https://youtu.be/kJxiiRGTUqo
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The King and I should be candidates for most gentlemanly banterers of the year. Not sure what rocky (Yo, Adrien!) master baiter had in mind with that thread but the commissioner didnt just lock it he shytecanned it. Harsh. Anywho, I told you all that to tell you this, second round of the NHL playoffs starts tonight. Go, go, Blue Jackets! __________________________ Throw it at the net and redirect. https://youtu.be/yUxIuLo0jlM
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Columbus hanging tough with Boston. Typical Nova Scotian sportsmanship. What a jack wagon. https://youtu.be/OrHnp0W8azM____________________________ What do they have on the telly in a pub in London? Cricket?
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Pro-gun conversation more exciting than anything on pub telly, lonesome.
Had it down to fine art as dangerous sport with the Irish in the 50s in East London pubs, a double barrel: I as animal killer and why the Irish on Hitler's side during the war? (The Irish were much quicker than the English to pick up I was out for fun and more interesting conversation.)
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I thought so, too, Bill. It's my thread and people can have as much fun as they like!
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I thought so, too, Bill. It's my thread and people can have as much fun as they like! Im all about having fun, but dont get too far off topic. http://www.espn.com/nhl/(The Brutal Honesty of the Columbus Blue Jackets) ___________________________ Join the (hockey) Joyride. https://youtu.be/WE45t-t0caU
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This is just embarrassing... https://youtu.be/kg59vM0rGx4...played too much soccer as a kid? Lay on the ice like a frog while the guy youre supposed to be covering scores the game winner. https://youtu.be/LKcTopDBL_g___________________________ Still want Dallas in that series in spite of the Finn who cant stay on his feet.
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Things are unfolding in the second round as they should. All four correct teams are leading.
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Hand guns in Canada and hockey. Whats next? A thread aboot their shyte beer and curling? Islanders are done. Dallas hanging tough against the St Louis Canadians. __________________________ Life is always just beginning! K. Lenin Brown https://youtu.be/b7k0a5hYnSI
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...played too much soccer as a kid?
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hOly jOe Dont you blaspheme in here! Dont you blaspheme in here! https://youtu.be/gFzRbaOjrS0jOe, you better Think! (think! think!) Figured I resurrect Kings hockey thread. Glad Finland beat Canada at Worlds. Ha ha. Must win tonight for the Saint Louis Canadians. First two draft picks this year will be an American and a Finn. Everyone in Canada are basketball fans now anyway. ___________________________ Hey, Aretha! Sing one for me. https://youtu.be/vf9O0N-8bwE Best musical movie EVER!
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One of my favorite scenes in the movie but you left out the introduction where the female bartender tells the boys that they have "both types" of music, Country and Western. Classic stuff!
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Ellwood got his name from one of our favorite gun shops up here....Ellwood Epps. Dan Aykroyd used to drive by the store and loved the name.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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A$$hole jOe. Just cant help herself. Gossipy, bitchy and sour. Only one woman I know of on this board and her name is jOsephine.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/qclHjMQ.jpg)
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Awe, maybe jOe's just kidding around a bit. Seems he'll just say when he's not.
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Awe, maybe jOe's just kidding around a bit. Seems he'll just say when he's not. I don't think so Craig. He's just trolling. As his 13,000 plus posts provide evidence for.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Don't worry jOe... no matter what you say or do here... it couldn't possibly be as low as SKB posting data from the anti-gunner Philip Alpers and his anti-gun organization, GunPolicy.org Yes, who can forget that the fairy-gunsmith SKB used highly suspect data from anti-gunners in an attempt to prove his lie when he claimed that there is NO GUN REGISTRATION in New Zealand. What sort of gunsmith uses data from anti-gunners???... especially when that questionable anti-gun data proves he was lying in the first place? Anyway, I was just hoping that one of your fan club could actually show us exactly where you accused Bob Trash of trying to pass of his saltwood upgrade Browning as original. Too bad that one got locked. Bob was really showing his true colors.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Don't worry jOe... no matter what you say or do here... it couldn't possibly be as low as SKB posting data from the anti-gunner Philip Alpers and his anti-gun organization, GunPolicy.org Yes, who can forget that the fairy-gunsmith SKB used highly suspect data from anti-gunners in an attempt to prove his lie when he claimed that there is NO GUN REGISTRATION in New Zealand. What sort of gunsmith uses data from anti-gunners???... especially when that questionable anti-gun data proves he was lying in the first place? Anyway, I was just hoping that one of your fan club could actually show us exactly where you accused Bob Trash of trying to pass of his saltwood upgrade Browning as original. Too bad that one got locked. Bob was really showing his true colors. Back with more of your LIES as usual Bill? Maybe you should try to find a job in all your spare time and quit living off the government dole. and just how many OTHER forum members have you hacked? Hi there Shortshells. I see you are making your second post with your new identity. Still too cowardly to use your other Doublegunshop screen name? Do you still think I don't know who you are? You should have covered your tracks better when you sent a cowardly anonymous intimidation letter to my house back in December. Your cyber security sucks and you let me right into your hard drive up there in N.Y. Too late to close the barn door now. That's all we'll say on that interesting subject just now.
But he wasn't the only one involved, and he wasn't the only one who left tracks in cyber-space.
Take care Wills.... Steve
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Poor Stevie... still obsessed with trying to protect his boyfriend Shortshells... when he isn't posting data from anti-gunners or standing by like a spineless sheep while agents from ATF illegally photograph his bound ledger books.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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And still no Job for you Bill? a shame with your degree from Penn State. Is it your arrest record that holds you back from getting a job? Same reason you hate back ground checks? Because you can not pass one?
Take care Wills. And just how many OTHER forum members have you hacked?
Steve
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Poor Stevie... so obsessed with trying to defend his boyfriend Shortshells that he will return repeatedly with more of his lies.
Why don't you tell us about YOUR support for Universal Background Checks Stevie? Maybe you could use some more data from Philip Alpers and GunPolicy.org
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Poor Stevie... so obsessed with trying to defend his boyfriend Shortshells that he will return repeatedly with more of his lies.
Why don't you tell us about YOUR support for Universal Background Checks Stevie? Maybe you could use some more data from Philip Alpers and GunPolicy.org Another of your LIES Wills....one you have been caught in repeatedly. Shame after all your hard work you could not find something truthful about me to say. So how many OTHER forum members have you hacked? Was that part of the Program at Pitt or did you learn those skills yourself? Must suck being stuck in that criminal lifestyle. Still can not find a job? Is it because of your arrest record? Steve
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C'mon Stevie, you aren't going to try to deny using data from the anti-gunner Philip Alpers and GunPolicy.org, are you?
If I have an arrest record, you and your gutless worm friends must have found it during your internet searches trying to learn all about me. So why don't you post it to prove that you aren't telling more lies???
And since you are so concerned with illegal activity, what do you think of your boyfriend Shortshells using the U.S. Mail to send intimidation letters to my house? Or how about Steven Dodd Hughes making threatening phone calls to me on 2/2/19 from (406) 222-9377 in Livingston, Montana? And why aren't you doing something about those ATF Agents who illegally photographed your FFL Bound ledger Books, while you stood by like a spineless sheep?
Anyhow, we'll be looking forward to you posting proof of my arrest record that you keep lying about.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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