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king george did not "have" to send armies to invade the rebellious american colonies. they were no threat to the empire...president lincoln did not "have" to send armies to invade the rebellious southern states...they were no threat to the federal gubmint...
both george and abe were despots, who were personally threatened by those seeking freedom...they would not tolerate those who dared to challenge their insane desires for absolute power and authority...
thus, the first and second american revolutions were bloody civil wars, where friends, neighbors and families commenced killing each other...rather insane and stupid, don't you think?
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Ed; Read the definition of Civil War I posted. Neither of those wars were civil wars. The Colonies did not try to take over the English Government from King George, nor did the Confederacy try to take the US Government away from "King Abe".
Miller/TN I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra
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The first confederacy lasted 8 years I believe and was a goat rope. Quebec was invited to join. Glad we dodged that bullet.
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what has always puzzled me, is why did so many northern men and boys answer lincoln's call in 1861? why was preserving the federal union all that important to them at that time? The north had almost an endless supply of soldiers getting off the boats at Ellis Island...I don't think they had any other choice. Well, if the endless supply of soldiers got off the boat at Ellis Island for the Civil War or War Between the States (pick one) it was almost 3 decades too late and a little early for the Spanish American War of 1898. Immigration facilities didn't open at Ellis until 1892.
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the boys of '61 were not fresh off any boat from europe...they were, for the most part, young men and boys born on the farms and and in the small towns that was the united states, at the time...most of them had never been more than 20 miles from home...
why then, were they so eager to volunteer, by the 100's of thousands to go off to war to kill their fellow countrymen?
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why then, were they so eager to volunteer, by the 100's of thousands to go off to war to kill their fellow countrymen?
I don't know exactly why. What I do know from wars the boys in my country went off to fight is this. Economics. They were at home on the farm with three or four or more of them together on the home lot. he farm could not support all of them & they were living in poverty. They had to go into the big world sometime soon & the army gave them the opportunity of pay, food, housing, adventure, camaraderie & maybe a future. The biggest employer at the time, just sign up & the army looks after the rest of it, easy. They were fed a line by the recruiters & knew no different & good old Dad wanting to be shot of some of this fast maturing boisterous mob, encouraged them in what the whole community was led to believe was a good cause. In a lot of cases the ones who chose not to go were sent a white feather & that shame was never lived down. Could this apply there ? O.M
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In wartime there is a habit of naming the enemy in a way that they are dehumanized. So a Reb is not a fellow countryman any more than a Gook, Jap, or Sand-unmentionable. Why, hell boy, they's the enemy !
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There was a steady flow of immigrants fighting for the North not necessarily by choice in the cival war...
You want a blue ribbon lAw dog spOt for catching a technicality on the island ?
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My great-great grandfather came in from Belfast, through NYC, settled in Savannah, fought for the south and spent part of the war at a POW camp at Fort Delaware, Delaware. No award necessary, Sponge Frank Square Load. Just stating fact not fiction.
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I guess that kind a proves my point about imigrants being thrown into the cival war when they got here...
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