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He then killed six more as they got up, with the remaining six shells.
Stan, Did your grandpa have an extended magazine on that Winchester (presumably?) 97? I never saw one that held 7 rounds??
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I'd be careful referring to others as "yankee sports" if'n I was shooting a small bore Yiltz shotgun at turkeys...
Just saying spOrt. Someone remind me in the future if Mr. Manners should ever ask me a question not to bother responding. It ain't worth the effort and it's pointless to be polite. I knew there was a good reason to keep him on ignore.
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I dunno Perry. I never saw it. He was shooting a Rem. M11 16 ga. by the time I came along. That's just what Mr. Starr Smith told me. He coulda' shot it empty and thrown one in the chamber, I guess. In hindsight, Mr. Starr might not have said anything about "the remaining six shells". Been a long time ago. I'm sure about the 13 birds number, though.
I thought '97s held one in the chamber and 6 in the tube. But, I've never owned one.
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What year did this guiding take place ? Just before the war. He guided for the Coleman Hotel, which became a resort and now is a restaurant. The hotel supplied the dogs and had access to the land. Often the sports would bring their own dogs. Back then it was all about the coveyrise and singles weren't normally pursued. He was 13 when he started guiding and bought the Ithaca when he was 17. It had to be one of the earliest models as the 16 wasn't introduced until 1938 and had the cigar shaped forend. Jerry said he hunted with the old Ithaca up until he couldn't hunt any more. Jerry remembers him shooting it faster on target than folks shooting autos. He'd bring home more money guiding than his dad did at the sawmill and following a mule pulling a plow. He also had a lot more fun. Jerry was supposed to inherit the gun but Hugh sold it for $40 and the kid who bought it shot it after it got plugged with mud. Jerry is still sick about it. He learned how to shoot on it after graduating from a .410. Aside from making money, one of the Yankees taught Jerry's dad how to use a fly rod. He never fished anything but a fly rod with live bait or poppers for red breasts and bream. He was a character for sure. He's been gone for 10 years.
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He then killed six more as they got up, with the remaining six shells.
Stan, Did your grandpa have an extended magazine on that Winchester (presumably?) 97? I never saw one that held 7 rounds?? Perry I bet he had 2" shells...
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I'd be careful referring to others as "yankee sports" if'n I was shooting a small bore Yiltz shotgun at turkeys...
Just saying spOrt. Someone remind me in the future if Mr. Manners should ever ask me a question not to bother responding. I knew there was a good reason to keep him on ignore. Make my day Ignore me spOrt.
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Aside from making money, one of the Yankees taught Jerry's dad how to use a fly rod. He never fished anything but a fly rod with live bait or poppers for red breasts and bream.
How much teaching you figure it took to teach a southern boy how to dunk a cricket with a fly rod ? Just curious spOrt...
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Stan, Neither do I. I know one in the chamber but I am only familiar with 4 more normally. It doesn't matter because I am not doubting your grandfather or the individual who told you. As for shooting into a covey, well back then that was pretty much the order of the day and with wide open choked guns I don't doubt the number killed. Additionally, having seen an old man I knew when I was young kill quail on the rise with a .22 I am not doubting what anyone says. Those old guys hunted for food or money, so I am guessing that they became pretty good shots!!
Joe, after all the other 8 pages on these 2 inch shells I had to laugh at your comment!! It was funny and almost had me wishing I had said it!!!
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My money is on 13 shot on the ground...
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The Win model 1897/97 had a 5 round magazine plus one in the chamber for a total of 6 shots, Except, the Brush & Riot models with their shorter barrels also had a shorter magazine, though not sure how much, likely that's where the 4 round magazine came from. "IF" it would hold 5 roll crimp 2 3/4" shells it may be possible it would have accepted 6, 2 5/8 fold crimp shells, though not certain.
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