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Ive told you before, Im not Frank. Frankly BrentD, I dont give a hoot what a socialist college professor ever has to say. Your opinion is nothing. But, its obvious you are trolling here. Your tag line about keeping your donation in your pocket tells it all. Socialists believe in free entitlement for all, and thats BrentD.
Socialism is almost the worst.
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Ive told you before, Im not Frank. Frankly BrentD, I dont give a hoot what a socialist college professor ever has to say. Your opinion is nothing. But, its obvious you are trolling here. Your tag line about keeping your donation in your pocket tells it all. Socialists believe in free entitlement for all, and thats BrentD. frank, you ain't foolin' no one. You don't give a hoot about a lot of things - then suddenly you do and you get all worked up about it. Classic frank behavior every time. You definitely give a hoot about what I have to say. I've started to notice every time. Just like this time.
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan)
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Frank, You don't seem to understand what I've written about lead Longbeard loads and your choice of them more than once. I have said they look great and more power to you using them. It's your choice. I don't want to shoot a 12 gauge when I can carry, shoot and kill birds with guns that are far lighter and simpler with TSS. It's my choice, not yours. I don't care if you kill turkeys with claw or ball peen hammers, letter openers, atlatl darts, Super Soakers or drop dead stares. Why do you care what guns and loads others shoot? I am familiar with the old Nitro Loads having an abundance of sub 9 sized pellets. I shot the same load in my SBE. I later switched over to the #7 Federal Heavyweights. The Nitro shot was barely heavier than lead, some tests showed it was less dense and lighter than lead. It isn't and wasn't the same as Tungsten Super Shot. No one is saying you have to shoot TSS. Shoot all the Winchester Longbeards you want. Why are you so worried about other folks' teeth? Worry about your own. We can revisit this same time next year. As always...
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Buzz, I don't really have a dog in this fight. I hunt turkey somewhat haphazardly and this year it will be with a vintage Fox A grade 12 gauge, as it has for the last 10 years or so. Next year I hope to be able to use my restored Charles Daly 12 ga. So I will not be going the TSS/lightweight gun route. I can't imagine a day when I won't be using 2 3/4" lead loads out of a vintage 12 ga.
And you may have personally met jOe and I won't argue at all as to what that experience is like. I'm glad to hear it may be better than meeting him on line here. Because, if he is misunderstood, it is through no one's fault but his own. If he has a reputation for a certain kind of behavior and attitude, it comes as a result of 13,000 of his own posts on this forum alone.
Look at every thread on TSS that I can recall. The crap doesn't start with someone else disparaging jOe's choices. It starts with jOe disparaging everyone who uses TSS. And in this thread, when I ask him why, he says he doesn't....that he's the one who gets attacked. Yet the evidence strongly suggests otherwise. He calls others whiners and yet whines to Dave to have his own, incriminating posts deleted.
It would be so much more enjoyable to meet the genuine and generous person you have met.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Arguments over turkey ammo are nothing new. Tom Kelly's 1973 classic, The Tenth Legion Wasn't my kind of read...funny how in his old age he gave into da'coys. Years ago, he led the campaign against decoys at the Alabama state level and last year or two ago showed up in a video with two guys standing on a road holding up a fan with birds running down the road to him which were shot. The Tenth Legion is still the best book written on not how to hunt turkeys, but why we do it. Alabama's answer to Jose Ortega y Gasset.
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Ive told you before, Im not Frank. Frankly BrentD, I dont give a hoot what a socialist college professor ever has to say. Your opinion is nothing. But, its obvious you are trolling here. Your tag line about keeping your donation in your pocket tells it all. Socialists believe in free entitlement for all, and thats BrentD. frank, you ain't foolin' no one. You don't give a hoot about a lot of things - then suddenly you do and you get all worked up about it. Classic frank behavior every time. You definitely give a hoot about what I have to say. I've started to notice every time. Just like this time. Brent I have spoken with people who have spoken to and worked on Buzz's guns. I have traded emails with him in the distant past. Buzz is a different person than jOe. Suggesting otherwise on here is simply another way to look silly.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Gil, what have you done to Mark Larson's turkey painting on the Baikal; it was so alive looking a few years ago. Now it looks like you've been rubbing it down with dirt...Geo Geo, Mark did the painting on the bottom gun which is the Yildiz. It's just the light in the photo making you think its changed as the painting is as crisp as it was when I got it back from him. Here is my first Baikal 20 that I gave to Jerry when he retired a few years ago. I rattle can camo'd it and stenciled the turkeys on it. Mark didn't do this one. Can you tell? Jerry won't take love nor money for it and has killed a pile of turkeys with it replacing his Mag 10 and 3" Ithaca M37 12 as his main gun.
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Different strokes for different folks...
Some people like cheap goofy looking crap...not eYe.
Canvasback if it's a 2&3/4" gun try some Winchester Roosters they have the same shot lock technology as the Longbeards. They come 15 to a box for about 25 bucks.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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CB: Frankly, I could care less what they hunt with. My only questions were why TSS when lead is so effective and cheap? , why use a .410, is it for bragging rights (I still think likely so, even if only to brag to ones self, the exception being a young child or girl)?, and it does appear there is a push by the ammo and firearms companies to sell these products. I do know lead #4s are extremely effective on turkey and seem sufficient. I really do believe all this new stuff is only a quest for a better or different mouse trap. But, no I dont care what other people legally hunt with. Besides, if there was total agreement on these issues, then we would have nothing to discuss....no intercourse whatsoever, and how BORING would that be. Also, since I personally know jOe, I see him in a different light than many of you. Here, he is a misunderstood individual imho. I know him as a genuine and generous person. Many of you would too if you had the chance to meet in person. With that in mind, and as an expert with the turkey hunting, I believe his opinion on this issue matters. jOe has apparently never shot a turkey with TSS, so how could he possibly have an opinion that matters? And anyone can tell from his posts here that physics is not his strong suit. And it doesn't appear that anyone on this forum except you is paying any attention to him. He once wounded a turkey with hevishot, but he can't grasp that TSS is not at all the same thing. Oh well, shoot whatever you want.
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