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Here you go, Larry. I moved this for you. I thought it might be too confusing for you to see that I had added info to my previous post at the same time you were posting.

"Since you won't offer what you meant, I'll step up to the plate. The reasonable way to understand your postulation of higher/lower classes is the top 50% are the higher classes, and the lower 50% are the lower classes. That would put M, AA, A and the top half of B into the higher classes, and the bottom half or B, C, D and E in the lower. You don't even have to include the top half of B in the higher to begin to see that the registrations are heavily weighed toward the higher, not the lower, as you claim.

Gator Cup 2019 - 729 entrants - 440 in M, AA and A"

http://www.winscoreonline.com/view_resul...mp;class_id=All



SRH

Im wondering why he's not in Florida at one of really big the big shewts..

John--Thanks. Working on those criteria, the Wisconsin State Shoot, I think, would qualify. One year I looked at had top money of $2,000, and just over 100 Master Class shooters participated (out of a total of roughly 300). All-America points also awarded.

The Iron Man, using those criteria, would not qualify. Top money last year was under $500, and fewer than 50 Master Class shooters participated (out of a total of 300+). But it is interesting to note that the same shooter took the top prize in both of those shoots.

JHJ, not sure I understand your meaning. Are you saying that the reason so many M class shooters show up at big shoots is that their sponsors require it, and because of the money pay outs?

Only a fraction of the M class shooters at any large shoot are sponsored. And, money is usually paid out 5 deep per class, plus HOA and RU.

Out of those 440 M class shooters at the Gator Cup I'll bet good money not over 40 of them are sponsored by someone who would require them to be there. And, only 7 of them could win cash. Wonder why the rest shot ? ................. love of competition. That's why. They're serious.

SRH

Stan, I always believe in bowing to superior knowledge/experience. I did so and played on your field with the goalposts you set in the case of "big shoots". You were the one who suggested shoots with 300 or more participants, and M and AA as the higher classes.

Must've been an earthquake or something, because it now seems that one of your goalposts--the "higher class" one--has shifted. Rather significantly. You might as well bump up the number of participants to 500 or more, which would conveniently eliminate ALL Wisconsin shoots.

Let's do this, Larry. Answer plainly and clearly what you meant by higher and lower classes. Would you do that? I was simply trying to figure out what you meant.

And, you never specified Wisconsin shoots. Did you?

SRH

Some southerners don't want to risk getting whipped by Yankees again....

Hey there, Ho-Jo-- wonder why, as a Vol State gent, you wanted to bring up the "War of Nawthern Aggression" into this thread.

I am NOT a SC shooter now-a-days-- best I ever did was a 39/50- maybe 12 years ago- in MI- shooting a friend's Beretta O/U-- another squad member was shooting a M42 .410-- and he shot a 46/50--
So, that was a "eye-opener" for me-- Now you give me a crack at some decoying barn pigeons or crows, and that's a "whole 'nother ball game"-- RWTF

Stan, one more time: I accepted YOUR suggested criteria based on your greater experience and knowledge of "big shoots". If you now wish to split higher from lower class right down the middle--upper half of B and above vs everything below--well then, the WI Iron Man (which is the shoot I'm most familiar with) still has more on the lower side than the upper side. Wisconsin State Shoot, more on the upper side. But apparently we're also now excluding all Wisconsin shoots, so those are irrelevant anyhow.

I concede that by throwing out all Wisconsin shoots and by changing where you suggested we divide upper from lower classes . . . you win. All it took was not only moving your own goalposts, but by insisting that we can't include any Wisconsin playing fields. Obviously only very minor modifications to the rules of the game.

Stan, you seem determined to build a fire. What the hell for?

What a bizarre conversation. Even Frank has problems beating this one.