April
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4 5 6
7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20
21 22 23 24 25 26 27
28 29 30
Who's Online Now
4 members (Stanton Hillis, smlekid, LRF, Marks_21), 256 guests, and 4 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics38,463
Posts545,045
Members14,409
Most Online1,258
Mar 29th, 2024
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#537905 02/16/19 04:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Sidelock
*
OP Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86


I bought this stock wax probably 5 or 6 years ago when I purchased some gun stock stains from them and I never got around to trying it until today. Before I applied it my stock had a slightly ruff feel to it in places. 10 minutes later with hardly any effort it was velvet smooth and had a beautiful glow to it.

The application calls for applying then waiting 10 minutes for it to dry then buff with a soft cloth.
The solution is as clear as water has a slight smell to it. When it dries it doesn't cloud over like normal wood waxes really no sign it was applied.

I did a second gun with a well worn finish. I didn't try to avoid the checkering...10 minutes later I buffed it with soft cloth....there was a nice glow to it with no sign that any wax had ever been applied.

Not sure how it will hold up in the field but I was amazed at the ease of application.

I wonder if they sold me a can of water with a dash of mineral spirits in it....all kidding aside it would pay you to try it.

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,982
Likes: 106
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,982
Likes: 106
Perma Wax sounds easy. I need to try it. How’s it better than Renaissance wax?


Socialism is almost the worst.
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,745
Likes: 743
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 9,745
Likes: 743
Thorny, who spent quality time waxing his Beesley ,would be so proud of you, hOmy.

Best,
Ted

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,092
Likes: 334
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,092
Likes: 334
Thompson's Water Seal (solvent based red label!) is better than any wax. Will not harm any finish.
JR


Be strong, be of good courage.
God bless America, long live the Republic.
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,149
Likes: 1147
Sidelock
**
Online Content
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,149
Likes: 1147
That's a new one on me, John. I'd have been scared to death to try it on a nice finish. How do you apply it?

Just had a thought .................. wonder how Rain-X would work?

SRH

Last edited by Stan; 02/16/19 09:49 PM.

May God bless America and those who defend her.
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 6,711
Likes: 411
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 6,711
Likes: 411
those of you that wax stocks, what do you do when it comes time for the once-a-year application of stock finishing oil, or do you not do that? I have not liked the effect of Johnson's Paste wax or similar on my gunstocks but I have not try Ren. Wax or some of the others that may be different.


_________
BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan)

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,149
Likes: 1147
Sidelock
**
Online Content
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,149
Likes: 1147
The guns I wax don't get any touch-up finish at year end. They stay as they are until they need a complete refinish.

SRH


May God bless America and those who defend her.
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,092
Likes: 334
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,092
Likes: 334
Originally Posted By: Stan
That's a new one on me, John. I'd have been scared to death to try it on a nice finish. How do you apply it?

Just had a thought .................. wonder how Rain-X would work?

SRH


Stan,
Just put it on a soft cloth and apply all over, even metal. Wait a little for solvent (it's very mild solvent-based) to evaporate, then rub down thoroughly. It leaves a nice protective film that totally rejects water.

I think Rain-X would work great as well.
JR


Be strong, be of good courage.
God bless America, long live the Republic.
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Sidelock
*
OP Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
I suppose you could rub them down with hog lard too...I'm sure it would "work great" too.


Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Sidelock
*
OP Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Originally Posted By: Ted Schefelbein
Thorny, who spent quality time waxing his Beesley ,would be so proud of you, hOmy.

Best,
Ted


I sure miss ol'Lowell...the pictures of his Beesley proping up the pine tree were always inspiring.

Buzz #537942 02/16/19 11:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Sidelock
*
OP Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Originally Posted By: buzz
Perma Wax sounds easy. I need to try it. How’s it better than Renaissance wax?


Perma wax is made by a company that only sells/makes gun related products...I've been using their stains for 20 years.

Renaissance is a curators wax designed to be used in museums. I've used Renaissance on ivory and exotic woods since it became available in the USA. I've used it on vintage guns (metal and wood) in a down pour it seemed like it washed off pretty quick.
I don't believe Renaissance was designed with the outdoorsman in mind.



Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,434
Likes: 34
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,434
Likes: 34
I used to wax some of my oil finish guns but I gave up because the few waxes I tried got gummy in hot and humid weather. Dove season in Yuma turned the wax to glue when it was 120 and rainy.

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Sidelock
*
OP Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
I'd be surprised if the out come would be the same with this product.

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,341
Likes: 389
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,341
Likes: 389
The original Rain-X contained acidified isopropynol. I've read that the newer version also contains some silicone. I don't think I want either one near my gun stocks. I recall seeing a formula to make a home made version of Rain-X that involved mixing about a teaspoon of either sulphuric or nitric acid with a pint of isopropanol. This wasn't the watered down version you put in your windshield washer reservoir. It was to be wiped on and then buffed off. I think I'll stay with using Rain-X strictly on my windshield.

I've had good luck with Johnson's Paste Wax on my gun stocks, and it sheds water even after hunting all day in steady rain. But this Laurel Mountain Perma Wax sounds interesting. Like jOe says, Laurel Mountain has a full line of gun care and refinishing products, and I have used their Permalyn stock finish. I think jOe mentioned that Johnson's Paste Wax has a stronger smell a few days ago, and might spook some game animals. I don't think the wax smell is near as noticeable as Hoppes No. 9, and have no idea if deer like the smell of the Hoppes as much as I do. I still have about a quart of the old nitrobenzene formula which smells like pure heaven.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

keith #537960 02/17/19 08:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Sidelock
*
OP Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
What did you think of their Permalyn stock finish ?

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,341
Likes: 389
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 11,341
Likes: 389
I like it and think it has it's place, but it is an oil modified urethane that has a heavy enough viscosity that it will be more appropriate on modern guns than vintage shotguns. There are people who want the stock on a vintage gun to have every pore perfectly filled and as shiny as a new Browning. But that look ain't for me. Of course, it can be thinned to get it to penetrate and seal the stock, and it really does a great job there. I'm pretty sure that the Permalyn sealer is little more than thinned Permalyn.

An "on the surface" oil modified urethane finish is going to be durable and more weather resistant than a traditional oil finish. And I've never seen any complaints about Permalyn failing. These on the surface finishes are more prone to fine scratches over time, but the surface can be rubbed out and repaired with a very thin top coat. I will say that at almost $50.00 a quart, it has certainly gone up in price since I last bought it. But $50.00 a quart is an absolute bargain compared to stuff like the oft recommended Timberluxe. When it comes to that product, I'll simply say there's proof that a fool and his money are soon parted.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

keith #538087 02/18/19 01:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Sidelock
*
OP Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
You recall the application instructions ?

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 6,711
Likes: 411
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 6,711
Likes: 411
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
What did you think of their Permalyn stock finish ?


It is fine on a hard used competition gun. I use it on two of mine. But it is definitely not quite appropriate for a hunting firearm, particularly a vintage gun anyway.


_________
BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan)

[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]


Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,174
Likes: 39
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 2,174
Likes: 39


Dodging lions and wasting time.....
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Sidelock
*
OP Offline
Sidelock
*

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 15,456
Likes: 86
Nice video...he got the part wrong about Renaissance wax being designed for guns.

It was designed for museums.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard

doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2024 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.0.33-0+deb9u11+hw1 Page Time: 0.113s Queries: 54 (0.088s) Memory: 0.9037 MB (Peak: 1.8991 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-04-24 10:55:19 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS