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#536746 - 02/09/19 12:06 AM Combination Garden Gun
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Here is a neat gun I'm selling for a client: https://www.gunbroker.com/item/798933368

It is a SXS cape gun in .22 Rimfire and 9mm Flobert rimfire, just the thing for those rampaging garden gnomes. From the proofs I think it is Belgian. With a 1 gram projectile for the rifle, this must be a CB cap. The 9mm shot proofs shows a 4 gram payload, which would be about 1/8 ounce.


These proofs seem awfully light, in that 9mm Flobert as produced by Fiocchi has 1/4 ounce of shot and that a 1 gram projectile is only around 15 grains. Are there other ammunition choices?

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#536767 - 02/09/19 10:49 AM Re: Combination Garden Gun [Re: Vol423]
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Edited by skeettx (02/10/19 02:17 PM)

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#536902 - 02/10/19 11:29 AM Re: Combination Garden Gun [Re: Vol423]
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Vol423,
These Warnant(?) action, so called Flobert guns are typically Belgian made. This one carries German proofs, one of which is the crown B( single definitive proof, using provisional proof load) that was chiefly applied to imported guns. According to Axel, guns chambered/proofed for these light loads could be bought without the licensing required of "real guns". This one is proofed with black powder(new rifle powder m/71). I have a newer one with a typical German type( 2 hammer, kipplauf)that carries the proofs that designate the nominal caliber, by what it was normally called. Mine is clearly marked 6mm Flobert and 9mm Flobert. An interesting point, both barrels of mine carry the crown G proof, inspite of the 9mm barrel being smooth bore( crown G means proofed for a single projectile-bullet). The 9mm Flobert was available with a round ball bullet load, hence the crown G proof. I couldn't see the single bullet proof on the gun in question, but doubtless, it could have been used with a similar load. The gun could be 22 rimfire, or it could be 6mm Flobert. The 6mm is so close to 22 that most people use 22rf in the 6mm chambers( Skeettx linked to source for 9mm shot but I don't know of a source for 6mm). The light bullet proof points to a BB cap rather than CB cap. Axel states these guns often had very generous chambers or had the 6mm chamber opened up. Experience with mine verifies this. I normally shoot CB caps, but can shoot 22 short, long, and even 22 LR( standard velocity).I haven't tested it enough to see if it stabilizes the 40 gr. bullet. As can be seen, there are other options for ammo than just CB caps. The minimum bid shown is, in my unsolicited opinion, too high.
Mike


Edited by Der Ami (02/10/19 11:30 AM)

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#536925 - 02/10/19 01:57 PM Re: Combination Garden Gun [Re: Vol423]
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https://www.gunbroker.com/All/search?Keywords=6mm%20Flobert

The round ball cartridge (BB Caps) works well in my Model 24 Savage 22/410


Edited by skeettx (02/10/19 02:18 PM)
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