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So I have a Fox SPE with the left ejector firing early. I am not a gunsmith but want to understand the problem before searching out the solution. What screws up the timing? What is the fix? Thanks in advance for you reply.
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1straightshot, Wear in the ejector sear can cause the ejectors to get out of time. It requires experience to correct it. Mike
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The ejector sear itself, the sear edge on it, may be worn so it releases the ejector early like Mike says.
The corresponding sear notch in the ejector hammer on that side can be worn so the sear doesn't engage securely and again releases the ejector early,, Both of these conditions may exist together on the same side.
There may be nothing more than dirt and built up crud in the ejector hammer sear notch not letting the ejector sear engage properly
The ejector sear might be a replacement from some point in it's life and was just that,,replaced w/o any fitting and adjustment done. It works but the bottom edge of the back end that you can see inside the forend iron 'shoe' is sitting too low. That's where the thin blade exits the front of the frame upon firing and lifts the ejector sear. Engage & lift it too quickly and the ejector fires too soon,,,too late and it may not eject at all. Closing the gun cams that thin blade back into the frame so if the bbl is not fired,,the bbl does not eject.
. It can be fitted/corrected a couple of different ways to make it time correctly. It takes a close look at the mechanism as it is and good understanding of how it works before going about filing and bending things thinking it might correct the problem. Best way to look at it is to take the forend iron assembly out of the wood. Then place the complete forend assembly back on the gun. With snap caps in the chambers, dry fire and very slowly open the breech. You will be able to see the blade engage the ejector sear and pivot it, then releasing the ejector itself. Usually you can figure out what needs to be done. This is easiest to observe if you place the bbls in a padded bench vise sideways. This gives you leverage to easily open the gun very slowly and watch whats going on.
>>Is it just annoyingly a bit out of time, or does the left bbl eject the shell and it hits the standing breech instead of clearing it.
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FWIW-- I only own 1 Fox gun at present- a Utica Sterly 20 with DT and EJ--I bought it some years ago, thinking that MI might have a season on mourning doves.
I have shot the Sterly on barn pigeon and blackbirds- noticed that about 50% of the time, when I fired just the right barrel, and opened the action, the left "lugger" went along for the ride, and pushed out the left unfired shell- not with the full force of the right barrel empty hull- but more than the regular extractors did. Brad B. (no longer with us) cured that easily- he removed both luggers, and cleaned out the "tunnel", also the small location holes for the lugger, when the gun was opened up and the ejection process started.
This "fluke" never occurred if I fired both barrels, and then un-breached the gun-- Hope this might help a bit-- RWTF
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The great thing about Fox ejectors is they were built to last a really long time. The problem with Fox ejectors is they have lasted a really long time...Geo
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Thank you gentleman. I appreciate the information. When firing it hits the breach face. It has been sitting in the safe too long because I don't want to break anything.
Any suggestions as to a qualified gunsmith in Eastern Pa. ?
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Dewey Vicknair in Liditz.. RWTF
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Thanks for the Name. I have seen his name mentioned before. Has he been in the business a long time? He is only 2 hours drive from me. Which is good because I hate too ship an irreplaceable shotgun.
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Dewey is one of the best--flat out. He will tell you "what's what" about any double gun he knows about, and there are few that he is not familiar with. He tends to favor the A.H. Fox guns-- - You will be dealing with a "top-shelf" gunsmith with Dewey!!
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You just hit on all the things I like to hear. I'll call him. Thanks for taking the time to reply.
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