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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Craig, Whatever you had in mind with your last post, it didn't come through your incoherent response. Slow down; take a deep breath; ask yourself what is it I think about this topic. What do I mean to say? How can I make myself clear to others?....

Bill, I am offended and reaching for my comfort legos at the same time. Will you please stop trying to bully me, and will you get your two buddies to clean up their potty mouth? I will see your ten victims and raise you three of 'em.

Just kidding, I thought I was crystal clear about folks having selecting reading skills. Anyway, thanks for not blocking me, otherwise I might turn to the ef bomb to show my tolerance and inclusiveness.

Hey Bill, thanks for your contributions to various topics.

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This is not the place to discuss politics, period. Libs, Conservatives, the Left, the Right, Communists, etc. None of this needs to be discussed here. This has been a great forum to present guns, calibers, gunsmithing, etc. but if a couple of you can’t stick to those topics, please take it elsewhere. Your comments make you sound like a bunch of school girls.

I do believe it’s an appropriate place to promote the schools and classes. Why not? It’s on subject.


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What Shane said +1.

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As I promised, I am posting a QUOTE by Doublegunshop site Administrator Dave Weber which states his thoughts on the use of this forum by some narcissists to advertise their personal ventures. I have put the specific part pertaining to personal advertisements in BOLD PURPLE PRINT, but have not changed Dave's word's on the subject of personal advertisements one bit.

This QUOTE is from the thread "OPEN LETTER TO DAVE W.", and it was concerning the rules for selling items here.

Read 'em and weep rocky mtn bill, Shane, and Hershel:

Originally Posted By: Dave Weber
For Sale section…

#1 - I have always provided latitude to members who have been courteous enough to ask prior to posting for sale ads. This would include those who personally sell DGJ collections, Ithaca Model 37's...et al. As I feel these are legitimate sporting items and/or fine firearms. I would expect the same fee if the listing was successful and honestly all the members who have ever asked first then posted have been more than honorable in their commitment to the terms of the for sale section. I prefer the preponderance of ads to feature SxS guns and rifles…so long as the “Other fine Firearms” and related are in the minority I have no issue with them being in the section. For that matter I can light up another forum with related items but there don’t seem to be enough of them to warrant the change.

(Random rant thrown in below just because…it’s true….Or, at least I think so.) I have always been pissed off by commercial ventures who feel the BBS and its members are worthwhile for their advertising so long as it’s free….Apparently only their time and products are worth money where as my time and my product is not….go figure.

Thank you,
Dave Weber


And here is a link that will explain why apostrophes and quotation marks in Dave's statement showed up with this-- ’ -- instead of an apostrophe, etc. I was going to fix it, but didn't want to get accused of dishonest editing. However, there is no mistaking his feelings on the subject:

https://www.justinweiss.com/articles/how-to-get-from-theyre-to-theyre/

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Without taking a side in this debate. Wouldn't it all be moot if SDH-MT simply paid Dave a small amount of money from the money he brings in for these classes?
Hate to see him leave, when paying a tiny amount of money would fix things.

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Paying Dave for all of the sales he made here on books and classes over the years might have been a decent and thoughtful solution. When SDH-MT first began hawking his books and classes by using this site for free advertising, he felt he was entitled to it. As I said, I knew it was wrong, and I knew about Dave Weber's stated feelings on people who use his site for personal gain. I wouldn't be surprised if Steven knew of it too, but felt he could get away with it by slipping his self promotion of books and expensive classes here in this forum.

I held my tongue and said nothing about his advertising, even though I long ago wrote him off as a pompous condescending little prick. That opinion was based upon his interactions with others here. It wasn't until he launched an attack on me for moving QUOTES of his Liberal pal rocky mtn bill's Socialist and anti-gun drivel from the main double gun forum over to here that I decided enough was enough. Steven was suggesting that everyone on this site should IGNORE and shun me. He wished to silence me.

Turn-about is fair play, but Steven can't take what he dishes out. That should tell us a lot about him, as should his repeated use of this site for free advertising for personal gain. It isn't as if doing the right thing merely slipped his mind. I brought it up in his June 2018 Advertising thread, and others did as well. Instead of correcting his misuse of the forum, he doubled-down and did the same advertising both here and in the main Double-gun forum... to get more free exposure, and I'm sure to poke a finger in my eye to show me he was above paying Dave Weber.

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The problem IS YOU William. You have driven this board into the ground with your constant political rambling. You are a one trick pony. The fact is that more of us know who you are every day. Your browbeating will become more and more difficult going forward. Pretend for a moment you are standing next to one of us when you start your crap because you just might be....

Oh, and the "In Honor of" donation a couple years ago was beautiful. I laughed at the time, but it's really just sad. You are a self absorbed narcissist. Have a good time knowing we will ALL soon know who you are, you brave little keyboard warrior.

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Hi there Shortshells. I see you are making your second post with your new identity. Still too cowardly to use your other Doublegunshop screen name? Do you still think I don't know who you are? You should have covered your tracks better when you sent a cowardly anonymous intimidation letter to my house back in December. Your cyber security sucks and you let me right into your hard drive up there in N.Y. Too late to close the barn door now. That's all we'll say on that interesting subject just now.

I see you passed my phone number on to SDH-MT Steven Dodd Hughes... because I received a telephone call from him a couple hours ago. The call was from (406) 222-9377 in Livingston, Montana. But I'm sure you know that.

He sounded drunk as a skunk, and was extremely vulgar and repeatedly making the same exact threat as you. He kept telling me to suck his dick, etc., until I reminded him he doesn't have one, or any balls either. We had a really nice chat for 2 minutes and 18 seconds. This is the small sick threatening spineless little man that so many here seem to idolize. He confirmed every negative thing that anyone ever said about him here, and much more. All this because he resents me bringing up his use of this forum for free advertising... same as you. By the time our conversation ended, his voice was quivering in fear. You are both losers. You can both add to his reputation with this immature stunt.

So you both wish to post my name, address, phone number on the internet and "OUT" me? What will that accomplish? I have no criminal past or anything to hide. I use a screen name on the internet because I am a gun collector who does not wish to be targeted by thieves.

So you two cowards wish to endanger my family by posting my name and address??? That tells us a lot about you and your total lack of a spine. Did you know the rules in the FAQ section here prohibit threats and information invasive of a person's privacy? Or do you only care about protecting your perceived right to continue to use Dave's forum for free advertising and complaints about preserving the 2nd Amendment? I hope you realize such actions have serious consequences. I am much nicer on the internet than I am in person.

EDIT: I probably should save this threat from you. It might come in handy some day.

Originally Posted By: Shortshells
The problem IS YOU William. You have driven this board into the ground with your constant political rambling. You are a one trick pony. The fact is that more of us know who you are every day. Your browbeating will become more and more difficult going forward. Pretend for a moment you are standing next to one of us when you start your crap because you just might be....

Oh, and the "In Honor of" donation a couple years ago was beautiful. I laughed at the time, but it's really just sad. You are a self absorbed narcissist. Have a good time knowing we will ALL soon know who you are, you brave little keyboard warrior.

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William, your name, address, telephone number and entire resume is already on the internet. you are the one that should have covered your tracks better. You know nothing of who I am, and I had nothing to do with any letter. I have never spoken to, or ever had contact with SDH-MT. Grasping at straws, and nobody wants your Mossberg. If you care to meet me, come to the Northeastern in June. It's a short drive from your house, ask around for Shortshells, we'll have a cup of tea and talk politics-away from this board.

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My name and resume is on the internet for Job Search purposes only, not for spineless little worms like you and Steven to share on the internet with crackheads and thieves. Did you know I changed jobs a couple years ago (2015), and now do the kind of work that makes finding idiots and cowards like you child's play? If you decide to endanger my family, there will be consequences that neither of you will like. But as far as I'm concerned, you have already threatened my family. I know exactly who you are, and I know of the extensive amount of time you spent searching the internet on November 4th.

Your little denial above is as transparent as you are. You say you never contacted Steven, but oh my what a coincidence that I should receive the exact same threat from both of you on the same day, less than two hours apart. I never thought you were very intelligent when you whined and complained about gun rights threads under your other Doublegunshop screen name, but I had no idea just how stupid you are. I do not forgive and forget. Know that.

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