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Holy Cow....have you seen the new price of the rust blue solution? 56$ for four ounces! I already make my browning solution. Now time to start making my rust blue solution too. I thought you farmed out your bluing...
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Piper and SKB, I have used the Brownells Classic blue and it is very good and leaves a nice strong blue-black finish.
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I have used the Brownells myself. When it first came out it was very much like Pilkington's. It seems to have become much stronger in subsequent batches I have purchased. I agree that it gives a nice deep black. I like a pretty mild solution and short rust periods to achieve a high luster blue. I have a bunch of chemicals on hand and it is a good day to do an inventory and see what I might need to order to start mixing my own. The thing I like about mixing my own browning solution is that it is repeatable. It seems like every solution acts slightly differently and you have a bit of a learning curve with each one.
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I knew a gentleman some years ago who had a muzzle-loading rifle he had browned the barrel on. It had about as nice a job as I have seen & I saw quite a few at that point. I of course only had his word for it, but he said he hung it in his basement & when he would mow his yard or other yard work & would get good & sweaty he would come in the basement & rub his hands up & down the barrel. When it got a good layer of rust he would card it off. When he got it to the color he wanted & had it evened out, he neutralized it & oiled it. Could not have asked for a better-looking brown.
I had an old set of junk twist barrels, don't recall the brand name on them, but browned them with the Laurel Mountain brown. When I got the desired depth of brown built up, I gave them one cycle through the boiling water tank. I showeed them to a good number of reople & everyone of them said I could have passed them off as an original blue job that had "Muddied" over the years.
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Steve, For Browning I prefer the Ordnance 1841, which was John Bivins favorite
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OOWER! Mercuric Chloride. A good constituent for rusting solutions if you want speed or live in an exceedingly dry atmosphere. Exceedingly toxic to us humans also cumulative in the body. Looking at the formula using Mercuric Chloride there is no Alcohol sometimes this can be listed as "Spirit of Nitre" rather than high percentage Alcohol in many formulas, because it gives the formula a rather nice Ethereal smell. The reason I am pointing this out is Mercuric Chloride does not freely dissolve in water. So if included in a water only formula it will just be an inactive sediment on the bottom of the bottle.
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I'm going to mix up some C17, Swiss Black in the next couple of days. I have heard good things, I have everything on hand and no Mercuric Chloride. That stuff scares me.
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I thought this thread was about stock finish.
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Don't be scared of Mercuric Chloride, it has been used for 150 years in browning solutions and other formulas. Just don't ingest it or come in contact with it , keep your hands off it and be careful. It is not volatile and you will not sniff it. Just treat it as a dangerous chemical that you should have no contact with. It is a very important ingredient in Browning solutions. Solubility in Water 48 g/100 mL (100 °C) Rx
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How to you properly dispose of anything containing Mercuric Chloride? Liquid and applicators, gloves, etc.?
_________ BrentD, (Professor - just for Stan)
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