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A 12 ga. Ruger Red Label of the original design is a heavy, ugly, ill-fitted pig-on-a-shovel. The 20 ga. is ill-fitted, but has decent dynamics. Triggers are awful.
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If the 3200 was so great it would still be around. On GI there’s a Remington 32 for sale with Krieghoff barrels. Interesting gun.

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Actually a Remington 32 can be a usable field gun. I have one with 28" barrels, double triggers and no rib, it weighs 7 lb 9 1/2 oz.


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Originally Posted By: John Roberts
A 12 ga. Ruger Red Label of the original design is a heavy, ugly, ill-fitted pig-on-a-shovel. The 20 ga. is ill-fitted, but has decent dynamics. Triggers are awful.
JR


Gosh John, don't beat around the bush. Tell us what you really think. LOL


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He obviously is carrying an agenda.


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Not cousin John....no way.

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There was or is a Premier model Remington over under that I can find no mention of on google or Gunsinternational or anywhere else on the internet. I saw one sell at an auction over the weekend, a delightful litte 28 gauge, case colored with gold birds and Remington logo in gold on the bottom. I found out that it was made by Sabatti, a known Italian company. I knew nothing of its retail price, so I was in the dark and couldn't bid. I would have bought it in a heartbeat if I knew what they sold for when they were being catalogued. I believe it sold for about $1600, but I could be mistaken. I looked it up. It sold for $1650. Does anyone know anything about this gun?

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It was a Sabatti.
They were always considered heavy for gauge.
The Peerless had some traction around here in the 90's, but as they broke, they disappeared from our local clubs. Haven't seen one in years. Repair was a cumbersome process.
I never saw a 28. That would be a rare item.
Plenty of 12's around.


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I have a Red Label Sporting in 20 ga with 30" barrels and I actually prefer it to my Beretta 687 SP-II 20 ga with 30" barrels. The Beretta is prettier and has better wood, but the Ruger handles better for me. A Red Label 12 ga makes a very decent duck gun.

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I have a Peerless that works well as a field gun, and I have used it for sporting clays a moderate amount. When my son got old enough to wield it I passed it to him, but got him an 11-87 when I felt like the high volume was rattling the little O/U apart.

I had an early model 32 with a plain (no rib) barrel and that weight reduction helped quite a bit. I still kick myself for selling it. It was choked .004 and cylinder and it was the devils right hand on birds over a pointer.

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