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Originally Posted By: Jeremy Pearce
Thanks for the responses.

In examining boxes of Remington Gun Club (12 gauge, 1 ounce loads) and Winchester Target (1 ounce and 1 1/8 loads) shells, I see some encouraging marks.

They all carry the CIP imprint. The Remington box even has a BNP mark with crown...and so I'm assuming they're considered safe to be fired in British guns within proof and with 2 3/4" chambers.

I'll take a look at B&P and Rio boxes when I find them.

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, it looks as if there are several American shells (besides RST) that qualify as lower-pressure loads.


Hmm, don't recall ever seeing CIP or British proof marks on Remington Gun Clubs. Will have to check some of my boxes. Only Winchesters I have seen with them were loaded in Australia. I would expect any Rem, Federal or Winchester ammo loaded in the US to be SAAMI pressures.

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Yes, check your boxes of Gun Clubs...I was surprised to see the BNP mark.

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British guns eject American shells much more forcefully--because they are ejecting "ungrateful colonists..."

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Just checked some 20ga Gun Clubs, 7/8 oz. They do carry the CIP logo. More surprising: I have an older box of Remington Express 16ga, 1 1/8 oz, 1295 fps. Also with the CIP logo.

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I just looked at 4 cases of Remington 12 gauge shells I have, 2 Nitro Steel 3" and 2 game loads of 1 oz @ 1290 fps. Both Nitro Steel cases had the CIP and Crown over BNP logos in the lower right corner, and one of the two Game Loads did


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