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https://www.skbshotguns.com/shotguns/200hr-target

Tried one of these out yesterday at my clubs five stand. I really liked it. All attributes of a true target gun. The DAC was a little low (stick on Gel pad fixed that).The trigger was a bit heavier than I'm used to but broke clean. I really liked the balance. 32" tubes.

Thanks for the report, Ken. They are very interesting guns, especially for a competition shooter who shoots a ramped-rib o/u and wants to shoot sxs events.

I have a suspicion these guns are much better quality than their price point indicates.

Though a lefty version, this Dickinson sideplate version with rust-blued barrels of the same gun, is mighty attractive even for the price:
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101133913
JR

It looks like it uses v-springs instead of coil. Not a bad looking gun.

My gunsmith approved! An important point for me. LOL

Your money was the correct color, apparently...

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One is $2500, the other is $3795. Is the wood the only difference or are they different guns?

Dang, Eightbore. Did you even bother to look at the link to the Dickinson GI photos and description? The SKB is a scalloped boxlock with ok wood and a high-polish, flashy blue job. The Dickinson is a sideplated boxlock with outstanding wood and a beautiful rust blue job. They are mechanically the same, both made by Akus in Turkey. Here are better photos of the SKB:
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101106455
JR

Everyone has their own tastes on these matters.

I find the actual triggers on Akus shotguns to be cheap stamped junk. Not the creep or pulls, the trigger blades themselves.

I run an Akus small bore in SxS shoots for it's dependability and ease of shooting modern ammo.
Outrageously strong ejectors. Break a window 2 miles away! Blind a spectator from 30 paces!

CZ, the triggers in the ad photos don't show up as so cheaply made, look ok to me. Are they hollow, tinny, what? Please explain a little further. Thanks.
JR

Other things I liked:
Palm swell and vertical type grip. Very comfortable in my large hands.
Semi BT forearm was very comfortable slim but not too much.
Case colors were more attractive in person than I imagined they would be.
Wood was pretty decent.

I predominately shoot a high rib sporting gun. I had no issues with the sight picture on this gun. Shot teal, rabbits and 45-50 yard crossers with ease.

Your mileage may vary.

After looking at videos and photo's of triggers being filed up out of stock, I have preferences.

The trigger blades on my Akus are very flimsy. I'd liken their feeling (as compared to my other doubles) as akin to the gen 1 vs gen 2 Remington 700 trigger blades. Flimsier, or less robust.

Perhaps the triggers on their target guns are more robust.

I handled their target .410 at PSA,ltd and I couldn't do the vertical grip. I bought the straight grip model.

Straight grip on a .410 doable not on a 12 ga. target gun (at least for me)

+1 Amen, brother.

SRH

Yep.
JR

Flimsy, eh? The Oxford dictionary defines the word as meaning "insubstantial and easily damaged".

"Insubstantial" would infer that they were not substantial enough to do their intended job well.

"Easily damaged" would infer that there are some instances of AKUS gun triggers damaged by normal use.

Neither is the case. If you can provide evidence to the contrary I'd say you should do so. Your idea of flimsy, evidently, shows that you don't know what delicate, or elegant, is. Delicate and flimsy are not the same, nor are they interchangeable.

I dug out my Dickinson .410 awhile ago just to view it with a critical eye, after reading your evaluation of the triggers on them. I find nothing about them that is flimsy. For heaven's sake, all they need to do is "break" the sears, requiring a very few pounds pressure. What do you want them to do, pick up an anvil? Good grief!

While viewing them with the "critical eye" I mentioned, I looked closer at the workmanship evident in them. They are designed for a right-handed shooter. The front trigger "shoe" is angled slightly to the right, to accommodate a finger that is inserted from the right. Because the rear trigger is more likely to be pulled with a more straight back motion, it is less so. They're thin, when viewed from the side. This absolutely lends an elegance to the form.



That is absolute bullshit. You show me a machine that can stamp out a trigger that is shaped as nicely as that, with multiple contours, and I'll buy you one. You evidently either have an agenda, or you don't know nice form when you see it.

You had something to say about having seen triggers filed out by some craftsmen. If you have seen true craftsmen making triggers from stock, you didn't learn much.

"Flimsy" and "less robust" are not the same thing, at all. Any craftsman, or even someone who knows enough to understand form, would know that. Robust may be appropriate for a big waterfowl or pigeon gun, but it's not for a .410 or 28 gauge, and it's badly out of place.

SRH

Geez Stan, You taking lessons from Joe?

I have the gun right here.
I answered Roberts' question with my opinion based on the unit I have right here. Right now.
The triggers are as I described.
Choose any adjectives you want to use to describe the triggers the way you want to. I doubt it will change my opinion of their manufacture.
Feel free to compare them to other triggers hogged out of solid.

With regards to any agenda, What possible motivations might I be harboring? Mine shoots fine. It shoots modern ammunition. It's adequately regulated for .5 oz loads. The patterns are fine. It's easy to clean. It has crazy strong ejectors. It has nice walnut. The barrel length is the one I prefer. It has the style of rib I prefer. The coloring is pleasing. It has the kind of grip I like.

How's this, If I were shopping for one today, I'd still buy one.

Lessons? Nope. jOe "don't take up for" Turkish guns at any turn, at any time. Really I'm not either, I'm just taking exception to your harsh terminology, using the word "flimsy", when it is so out of place and just flat out wrong. But, since you didn't even address that in your reply I assume you have no way to defend your use of the word concerning these AKUS gun's triggers. Care to try again?

I can't answer the question about agenda for you, whether or not you have one. I cannot answer whether or not you can recognize nice form in a trigger design when you see it. But, I stand by my statement that it is either one or the other. There's not many other options to explain your attitude, that I'm aware of.

Care to justify your use of the description "cheap stamped junk" .................with proof? Or, is it just your opinion. And, what are "actual" triggers .....................actually?

Tell you what...............let's simplify things and get right to the point. Justify your use of the word "flimsy" in describing triggers that are delicate, strong, and well designed. Do yours bend in use? Have they failed because they are insubstantial? Or, would you care to choose another word to describe them?

SRH

Worth a mention here: it's obvious CZ is referring to double triggers. But the single trigger in the two guns I linked above looks like a near work of art, well sculpted and nicely contoured.
JR

I could never get that lathered up over a cheaply made flimsy gun.

Now that's funny!

I edited my post