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#527733 11/04/18 11:51 AM
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I have had a hunting love affair with Hungary for more
than 30 years. It started in the late 1980's with
walkup pheasant shooting in a small village at the
Tisza river.Run well for a couple of years, but
degraded and finally shut down by the cooperative.
Doves in the sunflower fields followed and pigeons
in the cattle farms. Reared mallards has been something
to be avoided both in Hungary and Czechia as it has been
nearly always a poor story.
With son and his friend at a place east of Budapest and
near Czorna.
But the Hungarian ultima ratio is waterfowl in the puszta
marches. It is this flat archaic land, nothing comparable
to other places in Europe, all there wild ducks and
geese, esp. the teal-like ducks very,very fast flying
birds.And above all the dominating geese flight in late
autumn, could be flocks of hundreds of geese in the air,
even out of range for an AK47.
With this waterfowl usually a one-digit bag, in case of
dense fog the geese would come down and provide the
chance for an increased bag.
Compared to the bags of Argentinian waterfowl hunting
this is rather bird-watching than hunting.
The advantage there no anakondas or piranhas around
you in the water lurking for prey, or even a croc
like in Yucatan/Mexico.
After 3 noshows on pigeons near Czorna I decided to
cease to go there and switched to Czechia for pheasants -
now for 6 years.
A hunting buddy of mine "Baron von L." approached me
and told me he has an offer for driven pheasants
"English style" in Hungary in cosy distance to the border.
With the bad experience of the pigeon noshows I did not
want to go as I considered it pure hype of the agent.
My buddy returned more than once and finally paid the
Hungarian short-term hunting license, so he got me and as a
matter of courtesy I could no longer deny.
It has been a short highway drive to a place near
the town of Panonhalma.
We were 5 hunters from Austria.
Already with the first drive I realized this is something
real, no hype and has been worthwile to have
gone there.
To make it short, I have never been on such a high-and-fast
flying pheasant shoot in my life.
The pegs were in the valley and birds driven out from
the hill by beaters with dogs, flying 30 to 50 m high
in full speed.
No box-pheasants ("Kistle-Fasane") kicked into
the air at all.
I have included 3 photos the agent has made.
I can not judge if this has been a one-off exercise not
to be repeated.
Let the photos speak for themselves.
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http://www.jpgbox.com/page/55414
1st drive
http://www.jpgbox.com/page/55415
3rd drive
http://www.jpgbox.com/page/55416
4th drive
Its "Baron von L." in his umimitable
graceful pose bagging a very high bird.
He is a Browning-afficionado, his tool a deluxe-custom-D5G
and a very proficient shot with it.
He is a banquier-emeritus. Has not been amused,
when I told him that John Moses Browning has turned in
his grave finding out that engraving of the D5G
is outsourced to all-mighty China.
Sic transit gloria de Liege.

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Felix Neuberger

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with bated breath.....


Cheers,

Raimey
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Felix I have enjoyed your DGJ articles


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Really enjoyed that Felix. Thank you for the narrative and the pics.

Please tell me more about the doves and sunflowers in Hungary. I am a lifelong dove shooter, and grow sunflower fields for that purpose, so I have interest it how it is done in other places.

What species of doves are there?

SRH


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1. Doves in Hungary are:
- Türkentaube ( means Turkey-dove/ lat. Streptopelia decaocto)
Came/moved post-1930's from Turkey northwest, is now
all over Europe. According Wikipedia also
in 22 of the US-states.
No big flocks, irregular flight, could be difficult
shooting (no flat-shots across sunflowers possible/
sometimes very high and fast )
- Turteltaube
Migratory bird, occasionaly in the bag
2. Pigeons
- The ubiquitous Town/Sreet pigeon of Europe.
The agents call those "Felsentaube"(rock-pigeon).
("Flying rat", never considered it an edible bird)
This bird lives in the sheds of the big
Hungarian cattle-farms (in commie-time called Kolchose).
Could be difficult shooting once the are circling.
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For a couple of years I attended a shoot with these
pigeoons which flew from the Slovak metropole
of Bratislava to feed on the Austrian fields.
It all started there with the complain of the pea-farmers
to the hunters to protect their fields.
Could be sometimes a world class shoot.
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I have been to Cordoba in Argentina on doves in the
1990's.
If I kept the figure correct there are about
80 mio birds.
Why / The successful dove-formula is:
- Safe roosting/breeding places in dense forests
- Lot of nearby crop
- Nearby water
On one return to the house I stayed about
150-200 m before the Americana-street
a flock of a size of Pharaonic-plague
dimension.
After 3 days of Cordoba doves you can not
see them anymore. A perpetual stream of
birds,always same direction, you can just
modify heigth by changing your peg.
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Recommend you to try Cordoba once,
the doves are there, not so necessarily
in Hungary
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Have already been to Cordoba twice, felix, four days of shooting each trip.

Agreed, they're in unbelievable numbers, and great shooting.

Thanks, SRH

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