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#525282 - 10/07/18 06:21 AM WTB drilling
harms Offline
Boxlock

Registered: 03/12/06
Posts: 16
I’m looking for a reasonably priced drilling for my 13 year old son. He wants to hunt everything and has decided carrying two guns is a little tough.
Thanks

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#525357 - 10/07/18 03:42 PM Re: WTB drilling [Re: harms]
WBLDon Offline
Sidelock

Registered: 09/16/13
Posts: 189
Loc: Minnesota
PM Sent

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#525370 - 10/07/18 07:11 PM Re: WTB drilling [Re: harms]
Ghostrider Offline
Sidelock
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 630
If you have interest in a combination gun. 30/30 over a 12 gauge
Let me know. I have a nice Merkel

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#525388 - 10/08/18 02:19 AM Re: WTB drilling [Re: harms]
Vol423 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/08
Posts: 798
Loc: Tennessee
Now is the bargain time for drillings. They are bringing about half of what they once did. Maybe even less in Europe. Most older guns will have shorter LOPs of around 13-3/4-14 inches, good for a kid. The cheapest ones will be 16ga. Try to stay away from oddball calibers. I suggest that you look for a Sauer or Krieghoff in 16 and 7X57R. A dural frame is lighter by 1/2 pound. I still have a Sauer in that setup that weighs 6 pounds without the scope.

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#525419 - 10/08/18 04:59 PM Re: WTB drilling [Re: Vol423]
Der Ami Offline
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Registered: 07/04/12
Posts: 2815
Loc: East Alabama
In opposition to most folks, I much prefer 16ga to 12ga anyway. A 12ga will be noticeably heavier and bulkier. Also people on this site seem to prefer longer barrels( 30-32")on doubles, but for drillings, I much prefer 60 cm (about 23 5/8"). As to caliber, 7x57R as mentioned above is as good as any and is pretty available. Also pretty available are 8x57IRS and 7x65R. The 6.5x57R is a great caliber also, and I believe it is worth the extra trouble to find ammo; handloading is not a bad hobby for a young man. Avoid 12ga/30-06 drillings. Take a look at Simpson Ltd., read the description, closely.
Mike


Edited by Der Ami (10/08/18 05:03 PM)

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#525437 - 10/08/18 06:40 PM Re: WTB drilling [Re: harms]
WBLDon Offline
Sidelock

Registered: 09/16/13
Posts: 189
Loc: Minnesota
Mike,

Not quite sure why you would "Avoid" a 12ga/30.06 if that's what you want. It will take about anything in US and most things in Canada. You are correct mine is heavier than my 16 ga/.243 but it is not at all hard to handle and very comfortable to shoot. I think it all has to do with what you want to do with it. Of course I have to say that I like all flavors of Drillings, regardless of gauge or caliber. They are a lot of gun for the money, even before the prices came down.

Have a Great Day!
WBLDon

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#525535 - 10/09/18 05:15 PM Re: WTB drilling [Re: WBLDon]
Der Ami Offline
Sidelock
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Registered: 07/04/12
Posts: 2815
Loc: East Alabama
WBLDon,
12ga/30-06- too heavy& "gawky"-30-06 is great for bolt gun, but no rim. My advice is worth what it cost, if you don't want to listen, don't. It won't hurt my feelings. I like drillings too, been using them since 64.
Mike

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#525784 - 10/11/18 09:35 PM Re: WTB drilling [Re: harms]
Vol423 Offline
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Registered: 02/24/08
Posts: 798
Loc: Tennessee
The biggest problem with a rimless cartridge like a .30/06 in a combo gun or drilling is extracting the fired cartridge. I used to carry a hook in my pocket to pull out empties on my Sauer 12/.30/06. The 30R Blaser was developed as a cartridge that could rechamber a .30/06 to a rimmed case and clean up the .30/06 chamber.

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#525827 - 10/12/18 10:09 AM Re: WTB drilling [Re: Vol423]
Der Ami Offline
Sidelock
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Registered: 07/04/12
Posts: 2815
Loc: East Alabama
For a long time German proof law prohibited chambering a "kipplauf" for a rimless cartridge, if a rimmed version was available( of course doesn't apply to 30-06). Rimmed cartridge always works, rimless cartridge most of the time works ( of course, you could cut rim recess in 06 chamber and use fireformed 7x65R cases).
Mike

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#525835 - 10/12/18 10:58 AM Re: WTB drilling [Re: harms]
WBLDon Offline
Sidelock

Registered: 09/16/13
Posts: 189
Loc: Minnesota
I guess everyone's mileage is different as i have had both 30.06 & .243 for years will no issues extracting cases. Have a .350 G&H mag double rifle as well and no issues there and that one had ejectors. Although I make sure to use either new factory ammo or if I reload I inspect the rims to make sure they are in good shape.

I will certainly agree that if you get a thin case or one that splits are rim or is dirty or possibly the chamber is a bit rough or out of spec a rimmed cartridge give you a lot more to grab a hold of. And of course rimmed is more traditional. But rimless have been around long enough to make them pretty darn reliable, even with ejectors. I, personally, would not and have not shied away from a break open gun I liked just because it was in a rimless caliber.

Just one Old Guys opinion and as Der Ami pointed out my opinion is worth exactly what it cost. LOL!

WBLDon

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