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Unfortunately I do not have Early Shotgun Concentrators and Spreaders: The First One Hundred Years of Invention to Control the Flight of Shot published by Gary Muckel in 2009 I came across this notice in the December 5, 1896 Sporting Life ; "rotary shot spreader" https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/46545/rec/1 ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-hRB3Lkh/0/87259354/S/Dec.%205%2C%201896%20Hummer-S.png) Jan. 5, 1901 ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-F8fnRTf/0/0c1c3478/S/January%205%2C%201901%20Hummer-S.png) In 1902 Brown offered an improved spreader device "The Hummer" ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-xwVCmcT/0/a5a95c2c/S/1902HummerShotSpreader-S.jpg) Sept. 13, 1902 ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-PSSWqqh/0/dc278e20/M/Sept%2013%2C%201902%20Hummer-M.png) Sept. 10, 1904 ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-JCtHMmh/0/c1aab250/M/3%20Sept.%2010%2C%201904%20Hummer-M.png) U.M.C. introduced their "Short Range Shells" in fall, 1904 https://books.google.com/books?id=n-gcAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA6-PA57&lpgSept. 24, 1904 "powder gas is introduced into the shot charge"? no wad? hole in the wad? ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-XBsD4Sw/0/c01d5b41/L/4%20Sept.%2024%2C%201904%20UMC%20Short%20Range%20Shell-L.png) Dec. 31 1904 ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-Q8K2LQx/0/7a325640/M/5%20December%2031%2C%201904%20UMC%20Short%20Range%20Shell-M.png)
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Peters was late to the party with "Spreader Loads" "tested in the field for two seasons" but I did not find any ads prior to 1907, nor did I find a description of an insert Nov. 9, 1907 Sporting Life![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-SLwKs3N/0/a316f8d6/M/Peters%20Nov.%209%2C%201907-M.png) Nov. 21, 1908 ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-5r6kwHw/0/5e33b6f3/M/Peters%20Nov.%2021%2C%201908-M.png)
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Thanks Drew,
Ecclesiastes 1:9, ...there is no new thing under the sun.
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Ah, now I know why RST brands their 28ga spreader loads as “Brush”. A nice nod to shotshell history.
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Drew.
Did I see a box of 23 regular and 2 spreader shells packaged for skeet shooters ? If I remember correctly they were on a table at a gun show
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I have not seen shells packaged that way but it sounds like a good idea...Geo
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Bro. Boats is correct. This Remington (low resolution) ad was from 1929, and the box had "scatter loads" for incoming doubles and station 8. ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-R7NqtFM/0/889d97cc/L/1929Skeet-L.jpg)
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For several years Remington Arms Co., Inc.'s NITRO CLUB Skeet Loads had nineteen regular shells and six spreaders while their cheaper ShurShot Skeet Loads were just twenty-five regular shells.
Early Shotgun Concentrators and Spreaders by Gary B. Muckel, 195 pages, $55 plus $3 shipping in USA. Order from:
Gary B. Muckel
6531 Carlsbad Dr.
Lincoln, NE 68510
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In the Sept. 1928 issue of "Hunting and Fishing" there is an article by W.H. Foster "An Analysis of Shotgun Performance in Skeet" and a Remington "New Remington Skeet Loads" ad. Unfortunately, there is no description of what makes the "Scatterloads" scatter, and in 12g both loads are #8s, 3 Dr. Eq. 1 1/8 oz. Remington-U.M.C. "Scatter Load" boxes ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-7LfRw6S/0/867126d1/M/Nitro%20Club%20Scatter%20Load%20Box-M.jpg) ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-9jCkV7f/0/a27a2b1c/M/Nitro%20Club%20Scatter%20Load%202-M.jpg) ![[Linked Image from photos.smugmug.com]](https://photos.smugmug.com/Shotshells-and-pressures/Speader-loads/i-TmHVgsq/0/525e792b/M/Kleanbore%20SS%20Scatter%20Load-M.jpg)
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