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King, the problem is you support and vote for politicians who would remove every gun from private hands if they could.

How can you protest effectively while still voting for those who would do that. The ONLY things politicians pay attention to is votes and their own personal agenda. All else is background noise.

You neuter your efforts by supporting those parties.....NDP, the Greens and Trudeau.

Even the Conservatives need their feet held to the fire. So unless you are prepared to vote against those who would take out guns away, everything else is just a waste of time and effort.


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....lying is not natural to me nor do I imagine to any member of the board....

....It may differ from what you and I believe. I accept all of it with equanimity. It's their faith, their belief, reality, truth. Who would say empirically they lie and err?....

....I am currently doing all to my ability here to stop what appears to me as national surrendering of our gun rights to the antis....

....Not good enough.

If I'm not mistaken, you made it clear that it was okay for Presidents to lie. At least you held that position when a progressive was selling healthcare to low IQ US voters.

Wouldn't you think that your thoughts about faith are exactly what your secular progressive leaders want their flock to believe? How many times on this very forum were we told about the antiquated Constitution and the belief that our feelings will progress us towards a future with increasing gun control?

As an advocate of secular progessivism and a student of history, don't you feel like a proud father when you can experience an antigun victory? I'm not thinking about a legislative win for them, but apathy and compliance of so called 'gun club members'. It reminds me of a thought attributed to an actor, participating with a voluntary gun buy back program to keep guns away from criminals is like participating with a voluntary castration program because you think your neighbors have too many kids. Maybe, the neutered gun owner was 'believed' to be a good start?

Maybe, it's 'not good enough', because the progressive belief and reality is evolving?

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I don't know what secular progressive church leaders want their congregations to believe. They are part of all groups of faith who believe of deity in a way that feels right to them, traditional, Old Testament, progressive, or something made up for themselves. Your message seems divisive. I live and work in communities that pioneered the ecumenical movement in North America. Americans seem to like beating up on others for their differences. It's not the Canadian way, in my experience.

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James, I've said many time I never voted Liberal in my life. I've voted Conservative and NDP and worked with Peter MacKay to lift the registry. In fact, the first time he appeared in an all-party meeting on gun control, I was asked to represent our county to drive the message home.

You'll recall my adversary in the biggest environmental issue of the 70s, forest spraying allegedly killing children, was Elizabeth May, the national Green leader who celebrated the non-compete with Dion decades later as a friend at dinner in my home. I can't remember voting Green.

Organizing is my day job. A vote for or petition to any party won't turn this around without help from the general public as last time with the long-gun registry.Our fraternity has effectively surrendered to Ottawa on new gun control measures. Does it seem odd that there's been no mention of it in this forum?

Neutered? The alleged anti-gunner is engaging the Nova Scotia community to stop it. Our national leaders have sent a few letters to Ottawa, for pete's sake, as if that will do it. Where have you been in this one, James? You read the papers. You know what the federal government intends for our shooting community.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Americans seem to like beating up on others for their differences. It's not the Canadian way, in my experience.


https://youtu.be/jhOfHkp0B_I

Could have fooled me.

Wings in Kwee-beck tonight.


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So King, I see you still can't answer those very simple questions concerning your bullshit story about your father's Baptism. And you still can't get a statement from any practicing Catholic priest, monsignor, bishop, Cardinal, Pope, or any Diocese or even St. Francis Xavier University, (where you claim to have so much influence and so many connections) who would verify your wild claim the they do not believe in the Resurrection, and no longer require that belief before performing Baptism on an adult convert.

But it would be most interesting to hear from you why your Father would even wish to join a sham religion based upon a huge lie and a false Prophet and Fake Messiah.

Why do you think that you can make me stop pointing out your Bullshit? Why do you think flailing and twisting will convince us you old fraud?

Concerning your penchant for lying, I have caught you many times, and saved enough examples of flat out lying to prove that I am not engaging in any sort of slander. My opinions of you are based entirely upon your own words. As you recall, James M, and PA24, DaveK, and a number of other guys have also accused you of lying here. I saved some of those statements too. My personal favorite was when you went on for days calling me a liar concerning your illegal transport of a handgun into the U.S. on several occasions--- until I finally provided a direct QUOTE from you proving that it was you that was the liar. Your story had more changes than the weather. Would you like to see some them again? Your lying was precisely why James M put you on his IGNORE list. I also posted that link to your New Years message where you justify Liberal's lying to accomplish their agenda.

Your "alleged anti-gun rhetoric" is anything but alleged. As one small example, how many times have you repeated the propaganda from anti-gun politicians and organizations that the Supreme Court changed the meaning of the 2nd Amendment in the 2008 Heller and the 2010 McDonald decisions? I have re-posted much of it hundreds of times, and it drove your little Topeka pen pal Gladys Kravitz nuts when I said I would post all of it in a Memorial thread as your legacy here. And it all meshes with your obvious pathological lying when you can repeatedly see posts from your fellow anti-gun troll Ed Good calling for disarming law abiding citizens, and tell us with a straight face that you have never seen any anti-gun sentiment posted here. For the sake of brevity, here's a link to a thread with a lot of your anti-gun rhetoric, and your denial of seeing any anti-gun sentiment here:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=479636&page=6

And here's a link to an anti-gun Trolling Thread you posted where you quoted an article in support of Canadian Gun Control laws, and your disapproval for anyone who demonizes guys like you who support and defend anti-gunners:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=369094

Originally Posted By: King Brown
Gun control doesn't work? I believe gun control works reasonably generally in Canada, providing a less violent society compared to some others, in good part because of our different culture.


Originally Posted By: King Brown
Democracies make choices. Americans accept mass murder to defend an individual right to bear arms in the name of personal freedom.



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Ed, historically the individual "right" to bear arms is relatively new. I believe John Ashcroft in 2002 became the first federal attorney-general to proclaim that individuals should be able to own guns. The Supreme Court in 2008 overturned all mainstream legal and historical scholarship by ruling that there is an individual right to own firearms although with some limits. Obama said it again last week.

I believe that during the previous 218 years the Second meant what it said: firearms shall be held by "the People"---a collective and not individual right---insofar they are in the service of "a well-regulated militia." Was an individual right even mentioned at the Constitutional Convention or in the House when it ratified the Amendment or when debated in state legislatures? I don't think so.


Unlike you King, I provide proof, and there's lots more where that came from. Your anti-2nd Amendment rhetoric will be your lasting legacy here.

Speaking of proof, you have recently been claiming that you are trying to save gun rights in Canada while almost every other gun owner including canvasback and oldstarfire is sitting on their hands. You made the same sort of claim about helping to get rid of the Canadian Long Gun Registry. You were not able to provide a shred of proof of that either. We do know that your advice to us and the NRA after the Newtown school shooting was to let Obama and the anti-gunners have their way with us. And even normally reserved canvasback has noted your unwavering support for the liberal Left Socialist politicians who work relentlessly to take away guns and gun rights. Nobody but a completely blind idiot would believe that you are really serious about preserving gun rights.

When you made a very serious false accusation against me about 8-10 years ago, I made a vow to myself to confront your incessant dishonesty and anti-gun, anti-NRA, and anti-2nd Amendment bullshit every time I saw it. I haven't forgotten it. Who knew that would become a full-time job?



A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Ah, keith, what a pleasure: a Canadian has provided you with a full-time job, a green, environmentally clean job, just you and your computer ranting to the world in a corner of your room. Middle of the night, too. After the night shift?

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As Brownie is put away by Keith for the umpteenth time, maybe it is time for this thread to die in a like manner.


Or perhaps, Brownie will attempt still another comeback retort as Leebs are prone to do praying few will read a long post.

In any event, game, set, match to Keith.


May Leebs who attack Cavanaugh and guns in general suffer worms in their cajones.

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King Brown is looking more and more like King Brown eYe.

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