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I am close to the finish line on a restoration of a Remington Model 1894 BE 12 gauge with 30" Damascus barrels. It's not to a factory original standard because the gun is being restocked and the shape of the stock and the chequering patterns are not dead original for a BE grade gun.

However, I'm at the point where I need to think about the final finishing touches. The receiver is about to be sent out for CCH. And having never done a restoration of a Damascus barreled gun before, I'm wondering about the furniture. What would have been originally CCH, what would have been blued and is it any different than what I'm used to with fluid steel blued barrels because of the Damascus.

And given that it's not perfectly original, if anyone has some thoughts about what might look better than original, I'm interested in that as well.

On K and A quality Remington Hammerless Doubles everything but the barrels and triggers were color case hardened. On B quality and higher the top-lever and trigger guards were nitre blued but the top-lever screw and trigger guard screw were still color case hardened.

Have you found your CC guy. If you look at Remingtons they have very distinct colors. Very nice blues and light purples. If your man gets mostly straw, yellows, and greys it will not look good when done. I�m sure a few here can post original colors photos so you can see what you should be after. I see a few CC men who get what looks like yellow grapes on a muddy grey back ground.

This one has pretty strong color. I had one a while back that was even stronger, I'll see if I can find photos.
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Thanks for the head's up Jon. I'm in Canada, the choice is very limited and I'm quite happy with the guy I'm using. He's done other work for me before and it's pretty darn good. In fact I'm holding a Pieper 16 he did for me a couple years ago. The predominate colours are blues and purples with touches of straw and brown.

Thanks Researcher. Exactly what I wanted to know. So no difference if the barrels were Damascus or not.

Interesting gun Mark. Looks like someone whacked off the typical AE-Grade round knob and put on a grip cap.



I've seen a few like it, so wonder if the factory did it? A "normal" capped pistol grip on a Remington Hammerless Double ends with the grip cap at a different angle.

Here are a few pics of my unrestored B grade 1894 10ga. I cant seem to get my google photos in a shared album to show up, can somebody tell me what Im doing wrong?

My 1894 B album

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Reb87

Very nice restoration. Remington manufactured some of the finest SxSs of that era.

Good shooting,
John

Reb87, Just trying to get clarification. Is that gun original or have the CCH been re-done. susjwp's post suggests it's been re-done and you are saying un-restored.

Beautiful gun either way!

Ive owned this gun for close to 20 years, I am convinced the gun is in its original condition and has not been restored.

Sure looks all original to me.

Great looking 10 ga.!

I have an old wooden Remington shell case with that "dog bone" trademark. I wonder when reb87's gun was produced? Might help date my case....Geo

George,

All during the years the Remington Hammerless Doubles were in production, the ammunition company was Union Metallic Cartridge Co. and the arms company was Remington Arms Co. Marcellus Hartley Dodge combined his two companies in 1911 as Remington Arms - Union Metallic Cartridge Co. Then in 1916, to get capital for expansion for war production they incorporated as The Remington Arms Union Metallic Cartridge Co., Inc. In 1920, they found themselves way over expanded so reorganized to spin off excess capacity and debt and formed Remington Arms Co., Inc. and a bit later The Remington Arms Union Metallic Cartridge Co., Inc. was dissolved. So, what is the company name on your ammo crate?

Dave

The words Remington UMC appear on either end of the dog-bone. The side of the box is marked Remington Arms Co, Inc...Geo

The red "dog bone" with the circle with Remington UMC at either end and KLEANBORE in the middle was in use from the introduction of KLEANBORE priming on Remington shotshells in 1930-31



By the mid-1930s Remington was working the UMC out of the logo and adding the DuPont logo in.

My crate is older than I thought. Thanks Researcher!...Geo

Just thought I'd update this thread with a few pics of the finished product. In the end it was more about getting a gun that I liked rather than being a slave to originality. Also solves the "counterfeit" problem for those worried I might be intending to scam someone. Haha!

Project overseen by a member here, Chris Dawe, who also did most of the work. CCH was done by Oskar Kobb.

Beautifully done CB!
Karl

Very Nice work! I especially like the black and white damascus. I need to work on that this winter as I have never been satisfied with my results with black and white.

Very nicely done. Something you will treasure for a long time.

Steve, Chris is still working on his results and had asked me if he could work on mine to help refine his technique. I had been planning to send it to the US as there are few craftsmen here who will take it on. IMHO, he's got that technique down pretty well. LOL

I couldn't be happier with his work.

DW, ADVICE TO REACTIONARIES and GUYS with COMB-OVERS: You can beat a dead horse, but you can't make him drink. CB, That'a nice outcome. I hope you plan to take it out this fall.

My compliments to Chris for that beautiful (and even) contrast. The Remington B Grades had �Fine Three stripe Damascus� which Remington called Oxford 4 S.J.

Bill, I have shot it already, will be doing a round of sporting clays on Sunday with some other members from this site and will head west with me come October. It looks too good to leave in the safe! Needs to get out under the big sky of the western plains.

James, better looking than you described. Gil

Some B-/BE-Grades got out the door at Ilion with Chain J barrels --

Wow. That turned out well. That is a legit restoration. C. Dawe did an outstanding job. The Damascus is fantastic. Beautiful contrast and finish. Wood looks amazing too. The case colors look �right� to me as well. It looks very regal, and not like a tarted up hussy that some other restorations seem to end up looking. Well done and congrats. I do really like Remington doubles. Very underrated.

I think the best thing I did was listen carefully to Chris�s advice, especially on the wood and chequering.

That Chain pattern looks very much like the same pattern as on my FE Lefever. On the LAC guns, the Chain Damascus was most often seen on the E grade I believe.

Outstanding job!!!

Outstanding is an understatement. As good as it looks in the pictures, it is far better in person.

Another example of Chris Dawes's superb craftsmanship.

I think your case colors are excellent. Lots of blues. Wish I could see it in 50 years when they soften into those superb subtle water colors which are so often seen on Remington's.

Thanks Jon. I wish that too. Perhaps when my son is around my age, 50 years from now, he will be able to enjoy those softened colours. I hope he will.

Awesome work.

Congratulations1

I would like to thank everyone for the positive comments ,much appreciated

Chris, that is outstanding work!

James, congratulations on a wonderful restoration. You should be very proud of the result.

Late to the game but, great job by Chris, Very nice looking resto, James. I know you will enjoy the Remington, and I hope you shoot it well. It really looks good.

SRH

Doug and Stan, thank you for the positive comments. Most appreciated. Thanks to everyone who has taken a moment and posted something. While I love it, I must say I'm a bit surprised. It got a bigger reaction than I was expecting. Taking it out tomorrow for round 2...some sporting clays.

I also love seeing Chris get the recognition he deserves. I'm lucky to have a smith in Chris who not only does great work but is on the same page as me when we are talking about what needs doing, what to do and what looks good.

Spent the day shooting SC with Canvasback, VictoryXC, and friends. Wow what a gorgeous day (and quite a lovely re-stocking on that Remington too!). Well done, Chris, but stay salt of the earth - that's how we likes ya.