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Stan the few times I've helped a farmer put his herbicides in his spray tank there was a formula supplied by the Co-Op and as I recall it was a mixture of at least 5 or 6 different herbicides some were just a few ounces of this a quart of this and so much of that...a witches brew of chemicals.

I remarked to my buddy that I thought you just sprayed Round Up...he said Round Up by itself is no longer enough.

Big time CRP land use was started about the same time the quail disappeared...

Just two sentences apart, ain't that the definition of special interest. Bash one, embrace the other, and on top of that, you have no concern for the price of meat at the grocery store? Time to get a diesel.

He should have said the entire farm bill is little more than a welfare program for farmers.

Something that puzzles me is that according to goverment studies in places the water table has dropped dramatically....in the next breath the government is subsidizing the farmers wells and irrigation systems in the same areas.

We have stupid leading stupider.

The Ethanol program does nothing to keep the cost of meat down Craig. Yes I have special interests as does everyone else. I like my truck to run well. I do not like paying more for a lower quality product. We currently pay farmers more to till up poor quality ground and call it an attempt at growing corn than we ever did for CRP. The Nitrate run off and erosion is causing problems and not just in the Gulf. I listened to an interesting story on Harvest Public Media last year about some of the efforts in Iowa to restore CRP to key drainage's and other highly erodible areas to combat some of the problems created by working poor ground.

Ethanol is a scam. Another hoax foisted on us by science deniers, like MMGW. Takes more energy to produce a gallon of ethanol than that gallon of ethanol will produce.

It�s corporate welfare right down the line, from the farmers who grow the corn to the processors who produce the ethanol. Should be stopped immediately. Too much marginal land has been put under the plough for this scam. I�d rather see it back to habitat.

The ethanol program is indefensible from every direction. Interesting to me, given the avowed conservatism of most of this board, how some favoured welfare programs get defended. Horrible when it�s a single black mother in Compton......just fine when it�s the farmer with a half section in corn.

The ethanol subsidies drive the cost of other foods up, by reducing acreage under cultivation for everything but corn.

I'm not so sure gasohol can be distinguished from many other unintended consequences. There's a lot of baggage that goes along with being pc unable to question the validity of pretty much anything 'green and renewable'.

Land owners, some of whom are farmers, are now eager to put land back into CRP. The 2018 farm bill proposes 5 million acres additional. The corn market has declined to roughly half of its high point as production outstripped demand. This was as predictable as early spring rain. Maybe some better days for pheasant hunters ahead!

The only thing "green" about ethanol is the money. I question ethanol precisely because of the damage it does to the environment. PC or not, I place a high value on habit and sound environmental policy.